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said shipp and imployment by merchants (as … said shipp and imployment by merchants (as this deponent well understood) of<br />
this citie and of Amsterdam, this deponent seeing one John Lopez ?Phillip<br />
living in Amsterdam (and being correspondent of Antony ffernandez Carr[?avajall GUTTER]<br />
and Manuel Rodriguez Carrion living alsoe there (and being correspondent<br />
of mr Painter, mr Pope and mr dunkin of this citie and is himselfe<br />
interessed in the cargazon) and ?soe John Tilly accompanie, assist and set forwards the said<br />
John Lopez from Amsterdam and furnish the said outward lading or [?cause GUTTER]<br />
it to be sent aboard, and saith the said Tilly is<br />
an Irish man, and Chant??erell is as hee beleeveth a hollander, and<br />
saith the said dutchman<br />
was to appeare as master from Amsterdam to the ??height of the TeXXXXXX<br />
and thence Betts was to act and appeare the master till the shipp<br />
came to or neere the Indies, and then the said John Lopez was to appeare<br />
master and the like they were to doe upon their retourne, and hee<br />
saith the said John Lopez received direct orders by word of mouth from his<br />
said Imployers for the management of the said voyage, wherein the most<br />
was left to his owne discretion, And further hee cannot depose.
To the fifth hee saith there were some accounts aboard the said<br />
shipp touching the said shipps lading when shee came to Milford, and<br />
this deponent doth not know of any papers, bills of lading or<br />
writings whatsoever torne throwne overboard or made away<br />
and otherwise hee cannot answer saving negatively for his part,
To the 6th hee saith hee knew the said shipp about a<br />
a (sic) moneth before such his embarking at Amsterdam as aforesaid, and<br />
that she was as hee understood belonging before to denmarke, and<br />
was bought from danish owners for the said voyage by John Tilly aforesaid<br />
for the account of him the said John and the rest oof the imployers, and otherwise hee cannot answer saving<br />
negatively.
To the 7th hee saith there were twenty one persons of the said ships company<br />
when shee came to Milford, of which seaven (as hee taketh it) are Spanish<br />
comprizing the said John Lopez in that number, who is in London<br />
and soe is the said Toribio ffernandez and this deponent, but where<br />
the rest (whom hee left aboard) now are hee knoweth not. And further hee<br />
cannot answer saving as aforesaid.
To the 8th hee saith the said shipp had tenn greate guns in her when shee [?was GUTTER]<br />
seized, and that shee is of about an hundred and fiftie tonnes burthen<br />
and saith there were two cups, one salt, two plates, one tobacco box<br />
foure peeces of eight and eight spoones (all of silver) aboard at the time<br />
of the said shipps coming to Milford, which the said John Lopez as hee<br />
beleeveth disposed to raise money for his iourney to London. And<br />
otherwise hee cannot answer
To the last hee saith that hee cannot answer thereto.
Repeated before Collonell Cock.
Wm Martyn [SIGNATURE, LH MARGIN]<br />
Interpreter
Dieg Mendes [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
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The same day.
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'''Toribio Fernandez''' native of Asturias in the Realme of Spaine<br />
aged 30 yeeres or thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the first second and third Interrogatories hee deposeth and saith that<br />
this deponent came first aboard the said shipp ''Hope'' the voyage in question<br />
in the Gulfe of Honduras in or about August last<br />
where the Captaine John Lopez entertained him and told him hee would [?receave GUTTER]<br />
foree would [?receave GUTTER]<br />
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