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'''I:I'''
The 22th of March 1658.
Lord P … '''I:I'''
The 22th of March 1658.
Lord Protector against the ''Hope'')<br />
aforesaid don Juan master.)
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'''Jacome Juan''' of ?Deva in Biscay Mariner, aged 28 yeeres or<br />
thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the first Interrogatorie hee saith that John Lopez (his precontest) and Mr Betts master of<br />
the said shipp the ''Hope'' in or about July 1657 spake to this deponent in this citie<br />
of London to goe a voyage hence with them for Amsterdam and soe for the West<br />
Indoes as boatswaine the said Betts the master of the said shipp, and this deponent<br />
yeelding to goe, the said Betts hired and agreed with him, and soe this deponent<br />
went with them hence to Amsterdam, where hee was embarked in the said<br />
shipp the ''Hope'', which departed from thence in or about September last was<br />
a twelve moneth, bound for the West Indies, but hee was not made acquainted<br />
to whose particular place there shee was designed, and saith shee carried in her<br />
from Amsterdam linnen, woollen, silkes, and some pipes of wine, and that in their<br />
passage they disposed of some of the said good (to the value of one thousand peeces<br />
of eight or thereabouts) at the Iland of Trinidad towards procuring their<br />
dispatches for the Indies, and further that as hee was informed by John Lopez<br />
the said goods were for account of John Page of London<br />
merchant and is father in law, Antonio ffernandez Carravajall, Antonio<br />
Rodriguez Robles and Andrew Duncan for this citie, and John Tilly and<br />
John [?Chanterwell] of Amsterdam. And otherwise cannot depose saving the said<br />
Betts is reputed an Englishman.
To the second hee saith the said shipp wemt directly from Amsterdam to the<br />
Iland of Trinidad and there delivered out some of the said goods (namely linnens,<br />
hatts, knives and a pipe of wine) towards gaining their said dispatches; but<br />
tooke more goods in there, and having obtained the said dispatches shee went to<br />
Comana in the terra firma of the Spanish West Indies, and there also sold<br />
some other of her lading for money which shee received and tooke in, and went<br />
thence to Truxilla (in their way to Honduras) and at Truxillas delivered out<br />
linnen woollen and wine, which the said Lopez there sold in truck for sassaperilla and hides<br />
to be delivered him in his returne with the said shipp from honduras, and<br />
soe went with the said shipp to the Gulfe of Honduras, where hee delivered<br />
out all the rest of the said outwards lading, and tooke in in truck thereof all the chests and skins that<br />
were brought in the said ship containing Indigo and druggs, and further hee<br />
cannot depose.
To the third hee saith that after receipt of the said Indicao and druggs in chests<br />
and skinn-baggs aboard at honduras, the said shipp retourned to Truxilla and<br />
there tooke in the said sassaperilla and hides before contracted for and bought as<br />
aforesaid, and thence touched at Mat[?ensa] by occasion of fowle weather, and<br />
thence came with intent to come to the downes at Dover; and saith the said<br />
chests were three hundred eightie three, the said skinn-baggs eleaven, the<br />
hides foure hundred seaventie six, the sassaperilla one thousand and one<br />
hundred arobes and two barrells and two basketts of druggs, all which goods<br />
were laded by the said John Lopez (as hee saith) who was Cape merchant of<br />
the said shipp the said voyage, and is (as hee taketh it) a Spaniard And further<br />
hee cannot depose.
To the fourth hee saith the said Mr Page and Mr ffernandez spake to the said<br />
John Lopez and the said Betts to undertake the said voyage, this deponent being<br />
in the citie present at severall their discourses thereabouts, and saith the said<br />
Betts was commander of the vessell, but the said Lopez was to appear and<br />
did ?assume to be master and merchant and all) in the Spanish West Indies for<br />
the better preservation of the goods hee being a Spaniard, And otherwise cannot<br />
depose.
To the 5th hee answereth negatively for his part, and otherwise cannot depose.
To the 6th hee saith hee never knew or saw the said shipp before such his comming<br />
to Amsterdam and to be embarked in her, and hee beleeveth that the said Mr<br />
Pageeleeveth that the said Mr<br />
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