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18 December 2013 +
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| First transcriber
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Colin Greenstreet +
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405 +
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| Parent volume
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HCA 13/72 +
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<u>Thomas Bale</u>
It is clea … <u>Thomas Bale</u>
It is clear from Thomas Bales' will, dated November 17th, 1671, that he retained his connections with the Spanish and probably the Canry wine trade.
In this will, Bale mentions debts due to him from two merchants in Cadiz. His will is made anticipating imminent death ("now weak in Bodie") in the port of Sally, on the Barbary coast. It is not clear whether Bale died in Sally, since there is a five year gap until the date of probate in February 1676 (modern dating).
This connection with the Barbary coast is apparent in Thomas Bale's deposition in HCA 13/72 above, made in July 1658, in which he mentions being a factor for the London merchant Thomas Warren at the port of Saphia, which was also on the North African coast.
<u>Thomas Warren</u>
<u>William Warren</u>
In his will, dated 1676, Thomas Bale, merchant, appointed "Mr William Warren in Lime=street of London Merchant" as his sole Executor. UNIQcea067370b473f16-ref-000013D3-QINU. UNIQcea067370b473f16-ref-000013D3-QINU +
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'''TNA'''
<u>PROB</u>
[[Tool … '''TNA'''
<u>PROB</u>
[[Tools: PROB 11/350/141 Will of Thomas Bale%2C Merchant of London 03 February 1676|PROB 11/350/141 Will of Thomas Bale, Merchant of London 03 February 1676]]
PROB 11/450/427 Will of William Warren, Merchant of London 27 May 1699 SEE [http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/5111/40611_310634-00102/979905?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dCanturburyPrerogativeCourt%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d0%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_r_db%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsln%3dwarren%26msddy%3d1699%26uidh%3d6i3&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults Ancestry digital image]
- Not to be confused with Sir William Warren, timber merchant, based in Wapping, who was a commercial partner with Sir John Shorter in Baltic trade<br />
- Inspection of PROB 11/450/427 does not confirm or disprove the theory that this the will of Thomas Bale's sole executor, with whom he had commercial links in the 1650s, and no doubt laterial links in the 1650s, and no doubt later +
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bin sometymes absent in parts beond the se … bin sometymes absent in parts beond the sea about his Merchandizing<br />
affayres, but is a subiect of the Commonwealth of England and<br />
soe reputed. And further hee cannot depose./
To the last hee saith his foregoeing deposition is true/
Repeated before both Judges
High Tr[?o]vanion [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
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The 14th day of July 1658/ [CENTRE HEADING]
Examined on the sayd allegation/
'''Rp. 3us'''
'''Thomas Bale''' of London Merchant aged 27 yeares<br />
or thereabouts a wittnes sworne and examined saith<br />
and deposeth as followeth videlicet./
To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith hee cannot depose only<br />
hee saith hee knoweth that the arlate William Warren was Supracargo<br />
of the ''Mary and Joyce'' the voyage in question and came Supracargo of<br />
her to Saphia in december 1657 with many goods laden aboard her<br />
for Accompt of Thomas Warren, but what goods the sayd William<br />
had for his owne Accompt aboard her hee knoweth not/ And further<br />
hee cannot depose for that hee was a factor for Thomas Warren<br />
at Saphia when the Shipp ''Mary and Joyce'' sett out from London./
To the 2 3 and 4th articles of the sayd allegation hee saith that hee being resident<br />
at Saphia as aforesayd as a factor for the sayd Thomas Warren there, knoweth<br />
that in the moneth of december 1657 the sayd shipp ''Mary and Joyce'' and the sayd<br />
William Warren in her as Supracargo, did arive at Saphia where this<br />
deponent having receaved letters of Advice to that purpose from Thomas<br />
Warren did assiste the sayd William Warren in the disposeing and bartering<br />
away of divers goods brought in the sayd shipp from London and reinvesting<br />
of them in bees waxe and other Merchandizes, after which the sayd<br />
William Warren and this deponent with him went in the sayd shipp<br />
''Mary and Joyce'' to the Canaries and arrived in the roade of Oratava<br />
there with the sayd waxe and other Merchandizes in the moneth of ffebruary<br />
1657 old style and 1658 new style, or latter end of January,<br />
where hee knoweth the sayd William Warren did barter a way part<br />
of the sayd bees waxe and some gold and peeces of eight and<br />
other Merchandizes for Canarie wines and therein caused to bee laded aboard<br />
the sayd shipp 190 pipes or thereabouts of Canarie wynes to bee transported<br />
thence for London, a hundred and fifty whereof or thereabouts were for Accompt<br />
of the sayd Thomas Warren, and the rest (as hee beleeveth) were<br />
for the Accompt of the sayd William Warren but the number soe<br />
laden for the sayd William Warrens Accompt hee remembreth<br />
not, nor knoweth whether any others arlate had any share with<br />
the sayd William Warren in the wines by him laden as for his<br />
owne Accompt, And further saving his subsequent deposition hee<br />
cannot depose for that hee was not privie to the signeing of any bills<br />
of ladeing for any wines taken aboard the sayd shipp the sayd voyage,
Toaboard the sayd shipp the sayd voyage,
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