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2 August 2015 +
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Colin Greenstreet +
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HCA 13/69 Silver 15 +
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<u>Peter Tam</u>
"Vollständig … <u>Peter Tam</u>
"Vollständiger Titel: Kläger: August Wygand, Notar in Hamburg, als Kurator der Metke Vogt (Vagets), Witwe des Henrich Vogt, Kaufmann und Bürger zu Hamburg (Kläger).- Beklagter: '''Caspar Tam(e)''' und die Erben des Heinrich Brockmann, Kaufleute in Hamburg (Nebenbeklagter).- Streitgegenstand: Appellationis; Schadensersatz- und Frachtgeldforderung in einem Streit zwischen Henrich Vogt und '''Peter Tamme''', die 1664 in Kommission für die Beklagten auf den karibischen Inseln Martinique und St. Christopher (St. Kitts) Wein gegen Zucker und Tabak verkauft hatten, dann aber die eingehandelten Güter nicht mit ihrem Schiff "St. Anna" transportierten, sondern auf französische Schiffe verladen ließen und durch ein Schiffsunglück einen Teil der Waren verloren; Einrede des Klägers, dass höhere Gewalt vorliege, da der König von Frankreich durch Edikt den Transport von Waren der Inseln nur auf französischen Schiffen gestattete<br />
Archivaliensignatur: Staatsarchiv Hamburg, 211-2_V 12<br />
Alt-/Vorsignatur: V 1004<br />
Kontext: Reichskammergericht >> V<br />
Laufzeit: '''1664,1686'''<br />
Enthältvermerke: Enthält: Prokuratoren: Kläger: Dr. Gotthard Marquard. Beklagter: Dr. Franz Philip Högele.- Instanzen: 1. (Obergericht 1669-1685). 2. Reichskammergericht (1686).- Darin: Vertrag von 1664 zwischen den beteiligten Kaufleuten über das strittige Kommissionsgeschäft.<br />
Sonstige Erschließungsangaben: Verwandte Bestände / Verzeichnungseinheiten: 741-4_S11401 (Bestelleinheit) [Mikroverfilmung von]<br />
Bestand: 211-2 Reichskammergericht"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000133A-QINU
"De ''prophet Samuel'' verwezenlijkte van augustus 1654 tot juli 1655 een bom van 61,8 %. Het Hamburgs schip ''den Salvador'' leverde 29 tot 46 % winst op per jaar, maar het is een uitzondering voor de Hamburgse schepen der firma. Nicholas de Groote had reden tot klagen. Zowei het schip van Hermans als dat van Peter Tam gaven meer kosten dan uitkeringen "Het is best dat man van sulke schippers siet te kommen, want sy varen..."UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000133D-QINU See also pp.373 & 358 for entries on Pete Tam [EDITORIAL NOTE: Baetens appears to have primary source material in the Felxi Archief relating to a number of Hamburg ships on the Mediterranean rout (Cadiz, Genua, elsewhere) in the 1640s and 1650s, and has been able to calculate ship returns on capital]
"De ''Gulden Sonne'' van Peter Tam was 200 last groot en telde 28 stukken geschut zoals het schip ''Salvador''...."UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001340-QINU
"De ''gulden Sonne'', schipper Peter Tam, ondeneemt zelfs van uit Cadix in september 1647 een reis naar Buenos..."UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001343-QINU
"Raadpleeg bijlage IV: in 1642 zeilt de ''Sint-Jan Baptista'', schipper Heyndrik Beck, van Hamburg naar Marseille en vervolgens nach Genua. In 1646 volgt de ''Verguide Maen'' van Jacob Faes derzelfde route. Michiel en Thomas Uttenholt varen ook op Genua. Uit verzekerinspolissen (IB 1598) blijkt dat de ''Gulden Sonne'' van Peter Tam in 1655 de verbinding verzekert tussen Genua en Cadiz, evenals zijn brower (?) Jaspar Tam op de ''Sterre'' en in 1660 Jorge Tam op de ''Hope''. Die is in tgenspraak wat F.BRAUDEL beweert, e.c...."UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001346-QINU
"Peter Tam"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001349-QINU [EDITORIAL NOTE: Refers to use of Hamburg ships in war with Denmark]
Abraham Johnson of the precinct of Saint Catherines neere the Tower of London Sailemaker, aged 3[?5] yeares deposed on September 28t 1653 that"the said Person to whome the said Peter Tam had delivered the said silver laded the same uppon severall boates for Holland this deponent seeinge the same soe ladeb into the said boates which carried the same alonge the river towards Bridges, and from thence as he was informed it passed through land to Slute in fflanders, and was thence carried over to flushinge and soe to Amsterdam, And this deponent haveinge speech with some of the Companie of the said shipp (haveinge the Golden Sunn uppon her Sterne) att such tyme as they were readie to saile from Ostend, asked them whiat (seeinge they were bound for Holland with their said shipp, and that the said silber as he understood was to goe thither) they landed and keft that att Ostend, and did not carrie it along with them, to which they annsweared that the Coast was not cleare enough for such an Adventure, and the danger considered it was held safest to Land and leabe the same there to be sent through the Land in boates unto the same effect.."UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000134C-QINU
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<u>Gaspar Tam</u>
Gaspar Tam of Hamborough Purser of the shipp the Goulden Sunn of Hamburgh aged 24 yearesUNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000134F-QINU<br />
- deposed on December 5th 1653 regarding "The Clayme of Peter Tam for his sylver in the Salvadore<br />
- Gaspar Tam stated: "the allegate Peter Tam of Hamborough hath for the time arlate and for about 9 yeares before [driven] a Constant trade to Saint [Lucar] and Cadiz in Spaine for plate and sylver to be for his Accompt transported there to Dunquirke Ostend and Hamborough, and for the time predeposed the said Peter Tam the producent had and hath his Agents and [Corrrespondents] resident at Saint [Lucar] and Cadiz aforesaid"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001352-QINU<br />
- Gaspar Tam states that he is a cousin of Peter Tam, and had "sailed with him for about ten years past"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001355-QINU<br />
- Gaspar Tam stated that Peter Tam's silver was bought with "a certaine cargazon of goods belonging to the said producent [?of] paper, bedsteads, and silke stuffes and other commodities brought from [?Genua] by the producent in his said shipp the ''Goulden Sunn'' to Cadiz, and there expressely left in this deponents hands to be sold and disposed off to the [?very] best advantage, and the returne thereof to be by this deponent remitted from thence to this said producent or his assigne which this deponent accordingly did and laded the said sylver or moneys as aforesaid for the accompt and [?XX] sole adventure of the said producent"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-00001358-QINU<br />
- Gaspar Tam stated that "Peter Tam hath lived in the [?Skeers] brooke in Hamborough with his family for ten yeares last and upwards" and for the same time Gaspar Tam's "settled abode", being a batchelor "hath bin in his ffathers house in the same street or place in Hamborough"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000135B-QINUh"UNIQ2e2459cb2dcd51ae-ref-0000135B-QINU +
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The 29th day of November <u>.1653< … The 29th day of November <u>.1653</u>:- [CENTRE HEADING]
Clayme of Peter Tam for his silver}<br />
the ''Salvador''}
Examined upon the said Allegation:-
[?XXX] silver-
'''2us:/'''
'''Michael van Lubkin''' of Hamborough Mariner aged [BLANK IN MANUSCRIPT] yeares<br />
or thereabouts sworne and examined saith as followeth videlicet
To the first second and 3. articles of the said Allegation hee saith and deposeth, That he this<br />
deponent hath well knowne the allegate Peter Tam a Shipmaster and Burgher of Hamborough<br />
for about 20. yeares last past, during which time the said Peter Tam hath made<br />
severall voyages to severall Ports and places of Spaine where hee hath traded for silver<br />
and other commodities for his owne accompt, And saith That in the yeare 1652 last past<br />
this deponent being at cadiz in Spaine, and there often in Companie with Jaspar Tam<br />
Cozen and Purser to the said produent Peter Tam, and for that time residing at cadiz<br />
aforesaid about the occasions of the said producent, hee the said Jaspar in or about the<br />
moneths of November or December 1652 told and acquainted this deponent That by order of the<br />
said producent hee the said Jaspar had solde and disposed of a part of a Cargo of goods<br />
which his unckle the producent had formerly brought from Genoa, and which this<br />
deponent had at Cadiz formerly seene consisting in paper and bedsteads and other comodities<br />
and that with the proceed thereof hee had procured foure hundred fiftie six peeces of eight<br />
which hee said hee had laden on board and sent away in the shipp the ''Salvador''<br />
(Christian Cloppenburgh Master) to be transported to Dunquirke or Ostend in fflanders and<br />
there to be delivered to the said producent or his Assignes for his use: And by reason of<br />
the premisses this deponent saith hee is fully and firmely assured in Conscience, that the<br />
said Peter Tam was and is and ought to be the true and lawfull Owner and Proprietor<br />
of the said 456 peeces of eight, this deponent being also by reason of his long acquaintance<br />
with the producent well acquainted with is usuall marke being the marke in
'''TAM''' [MERCHANT'S MARK, LH MARGIN]
margent. And otherwise saving his following deposition hee saith hee cannot depose:/
To the 4: 5: and 6th and schedule or bill of lading alleadged in the 4th article, and showne<br />
to this deponent at the time of his examination hee saith and deposeth, That hee was not<br />
present at the firming of the bills of lading arlate, but by reasonit is the constant<br />
customs of masters of shipps by themselves or their Pursers to signe three bills of lading of<br />
one tenor for Merchants goods received aboard their shipps, and for that this deponent is well<br />
acquainted with the handwriting of the said Jaspar Tam, and the firme or subscription<br />
to the said bill, the handwriting, as hee also upon former experience stedfastly beleeveth<br />
of the said Christian Cloppenburgh or his Purser in his name, hee therefore is<br />
absolutely convined in Conscience, that the said bill of lading was and is one of the<br />
Originall bils of lading signed at Cadiz by the said Captaine or Purser for the said sylver<br />
and that the contents thereof were and are true, and so had and done as therein<br />
is contained, And that no person whatsoever besides the said producent, since the time<br />
the said sylver was so laden as aforesaid, had or hath any manner of part or<br />
interest therein; And saith hee beleeveth that the sylver predeposed at the time of<br />
the seizure of the said shipp by the said shipp by the English was on board the same<br />
and came to the hands of the seizors and Officers of this Commonwealth. And other<br />
wise saving his foregoing depositions hee saith hee cannot depose./
To the 7th hee saith the arlate Peter Tam was and is by common report a Hamburger<br />
borne, and hath lived at Hamburgh for about 20. yeares of this deponents knowledge<br />
And is there a Burgher and Subject of that free State which this deponent certainly<br />
knoweth being also a Native of Hamburgh, where he hath alwaies had his constant [?XXXX]
To the last hee saith his foregoing deposition is true:/e saith his foregoing deposition is true:/ +
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