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|Transcription=1. knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at is
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2. Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponents
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3. in case hee would undertake such a voyage, and for that this deponents by longe
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4. acquaintance and familiar conservation with merchants and masters of shipps
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5. both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
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6. the trueth of the Customes and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
  
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7. To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponents doeth not knowe nor ever heard
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8. of any other allowances whatsoever ˹from the freightor˺ to English masters and Marinbers useing the
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9. navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
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10. priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
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11. passengers And other wise cannot depose.
  
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12. To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
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13. 1655 last past, the shipp the Hannibal of London whereof this deponent was
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14. and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
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15. the immediate service of the commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
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16. the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
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17. discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner of the said shipp and haveing a License
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18. from the king of portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
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19. deponent amoungst other things propounded to his said Owners a voiage with the said
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20. shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
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21. hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
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22. what he would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
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23. Commander upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
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24. Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
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25. and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
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26. hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
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27. Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owners thereupon
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28. prepounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
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29. refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
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30. commanded for London. And further cannot depose./
  
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31. To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
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32. arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the Saphire arlate
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33. Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the Hannibal arlate Captaine
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34. William Cill Master of the shipp the Prosperous arlate, Captaine Thomas
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35. Bll Master of the May fflower arlate and Captaine John Wills
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36. Commander of the successe arlate were all of them designed upon the said
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37. voyage to Brazeele, but what agreement they respectively made for their
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38. respective voyages thither hee saith hee knoweth not, nor can depose, otherwise
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39. then that this deponent hath heard the said Captaine Tatam, Captaine Bell and
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40. Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the Americe
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41. in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
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42. allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
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43. for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose: Saving his foregoeing deposition
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44. To which hee referreth./
  
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45. To the 6th Article hee saith, that by reason of his long continued experience in
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46. matters of Contracts and Charteparties between Merchants and Masters of
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47. shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
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48. and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
 +
49. either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the voiage, and that usually
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50. primiage and average, and sometimes peciled manage accustomed have from time to time constantly
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51. belonged XX and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps and been
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52. divided and distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
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53. to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
  
 
|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
 
|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]

Revision as of 13:09, April 27, 2014

Volume HCA 13/71
Folio 185
Side Recto
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Status
XXXX; pasted into wikispot on 27/04/14 by Colin Greenstreet
Languages
Note
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First transcriber
Jill Wilcox 13/4/2013
First transcribed
unknown
Editorial history
Created 05/04/14, by CSG

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1. knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at is
2. Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponents
3. in case hee would undertake such a voyage, and for that this deponents by longe
4. acquaintance and familiar conservation with merchants and masters of shipps
5. both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
6. the trueth of the Customes and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose

7. To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponents doeth not knowe nor ever heard
8. of any other allowances whatsoever ˹from the freightor˺ to English masters and Marinbers useing the
9. navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
10. priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
11. passengers And other wise cannot depose.

12. To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
13. 1655 last past, the shipp the Hannibal of London whereof this deponent was
14. and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
15. the immediate service of the commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
16. the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
17. discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner of the said shipp and haveing a License
18. from the king of portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
19. deponent amoungst other things propounded to his said Owners a voiage with the said
20. shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
21. hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
22. what he would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
23. Commander upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
24. Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
25. and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
26. hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
27. Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owners thereupon
28. prepounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
29. refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
30. commanded for London. And further cannot depose./

31. To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
32. arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the Saphire arlate
33. Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the Hannibal arlate Captaine
34. William Cill Master of the shipp the Prosperous arlate, Captaine Thomas
35. Bll Master of the May fflower arlate and Captaine John Wills
36. Commander of the successe arlate were all of them designed upon the said
37. voyage to Brazeele, but what agreement they respectively made for their
38. respective voyages thither hee saith hee knoweth not, nor can depose, otherwise
39. then that this deponent hath heard the said Captaine Tatam, Captaine Bell and
40. Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the Americe
41. in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
42. allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
43. for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose: Saving his foregoeing deposition
44. To which hee referreth./

45. To the 6th Article hee saith, that by reason of his long continued experience in
46. matters of Contracts and Charteparties between Merchants and Masters of
47. shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
48. and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
49. either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the voiage, and that usually
50. primiage and average, and sometimes peciled manage accustomed have from time to time constantly
51. belonged XX and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps and been
52. divided and distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
53. to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall

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