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'''HCA13/126'''
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#redirect HCA 13/126
 
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HCA13/126 is a large bound manuscript volume covering the period 1654-1655.  The volume contains the detailed answers of deponents in legal cases brought before the High Court of Admiralty.
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The following abstracts and related transcriptions have been selected from the large number of depositions in this specific volume.  The depositions are recorded by the date on which they were made.  However, there is no original or subsequent pagination.
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'''Editorial history'''
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23/11/11, CSG:  Created page, together with sample abstracts and transcriptions
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__TOC__
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==Suggested links==
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See [[MRP: Admiralty court cases|Admiralty court cases]]
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==To do==
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==The answer of Thomas May, July 10th, 1652==
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'''Abstract'''
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On December 18th, 1651 the lighter the ''Mayflower'' was involved in a collision with a larger ship, the ''Mary''.  The lighter had been moored on the Thames half a mile from Gravesend. The lighter was near the lower Chalk wharf, on the Kentish side of the river.  It had been engaged in bringing up ordinance and iron from a sunken ship which had been wrecked in the river.  Seven or eight men were working on the lighter, with an additional watchman on shore.  But at the time of the collision the men were all on shore to have some food.  Nevertheless, the oncoming ship was spotted and warning cries were uttered, which either through carelessness or wilfulness were ignored, and a collision took place.  The lighter broke free of its moorings and drifted at least three miles from its previous position.
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'''Transcription'''
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[No page no.]
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The 10:th day of July 1652
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Repeated before
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D:r ?Clerk one of
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the Judgesxr
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The personall answers of
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Thomas May made to the p:rmised
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posicons of an allegation given
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against him on the behalfe of
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?Savery as followeth
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To the first and second positions he answereth
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and beleiveth that hee this respondent had upon
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the day aclate (beinge the eighteenth day of
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December 1651) his lighter called the
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''Mayflower'' fast moored in the river of
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Thames neere lower Chalke wharfe about
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halfe a mile from Gravesend over a certayne
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racke that was there suncke in the said River
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for y:e weighing up of Ordinance and Iron
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out of the said Shippe or Rack which said
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lighter did (as hee beleiveth) lye neere two
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stones throwe from y:e Kentish side and soe
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farr from the Essex side that neere twenty
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Shipps on breast might in faire and good
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weather (as he beleeveth) have passed by
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without doinge or receivinge and damage
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and upon y:e Kentish side about foure Shipps
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might have passed on breast betweene y:e
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shoare and the said lighter the river beinge
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in that place (as he beleiveth) neere a mile
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in breadth and the bancks of y:e river in and
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about that place are soe absolutely steepe that
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there is noe shelvinge nor wast ground as hee
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hath observed and beleeveth and this respondent
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[New manuscript page]
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did generally imploy seaven or eight men to
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worke on board the said lighter for the weighing
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of the said Ordnance and Iron and one
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man constantly to bee and lye on board he
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or soe neere on shoare that hee might bee
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within sight of the said lighter and looke to
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the same, and this respondent beleiveth the
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said lighter did ride in such a place over the
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said Racke where Shipps did and might
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usually passe unlesse they were of very great
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burthen and the water lowe and they in
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regard of the said Sunck vessell or racke
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they could not passe without very great
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danger as he beleiveth and he beleiveth that
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at the tyme of the said Shippe y:e ''Mary''
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runne against the said lighter there was not
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any person on board, but those employed by this
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respondent were gone on shoare to a house very
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neere the place where the said lighter did lye
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where they had their dyet and, a good distance
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before the said Shippe came neere to the said
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lighter some of the said persons employed upon y:e
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same did see the said Shippe and call to the
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company thereof as he beleiveth wishinge
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them to take heed of the said lighter as hee
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beleeveth, yet notwithstandinge the company
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of the same out of carlesnesse or wilfulnesse
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as he beleiveth did ranne against the said
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lighter & broake her from her Mooringes
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though there was roome for twenty Shipps
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as aforesaid to have gon on the one side
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& foure on the other all on breast
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without doinge or receivinge any damage
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as he beleeveth and did carry her away at
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least two or three miles as hee beleiveth by
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w:ch this repdent was very much damnified as
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he beleiveth and otherwise he doth not beleeive the
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said posicon to bee true in any parte
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==The answers of James Burton, Thomas Bludworth and Simon Spencer, September 2nd 1653==
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'''Abstract'''
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'''This abstract needs to be written'''
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'''Transcription'''
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[LH manuscript page, no pagination]
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2 Sep 1653
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Repeated before
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M:r Cork
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The personal Answeres of
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James Burton Thomas
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Bludworth and Simon Spencer
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made for the ?pduced articles of
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an Allegacon given against
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them on the behalfe of
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Gribble and
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Greenefeild as followeth
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To the first second third and
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fourth articles they and each of them
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doth answere and depose by vertue of
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his oath that in or about the moneths
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of January or ffebruary last and
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severall tymes before they the said
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James Burton, Thomas Bludworth and
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Richard Spencer did give  order & direccon
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for Anthony Monvoysa their factor Resident
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at Abervile to buy for them and their
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ioynz Accompt certain quantityes of
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pruins spiritts and other commodityes as
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accordinge to the bill of prizis by them
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sent to him, and he did afterwards before
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the seizure of the vesselle w:th the goods
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in question give advise to them the said
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partyes that he had bought for them
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and their Accompt the severall and
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respective goods nowe claymed
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and that he had payd for the same
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with effects of theirs remayninge
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in his handes, and he had then of
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theirs a farr greater some than
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the value of the said goods, and they
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have really paid and allowed for
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the same and out of such their effects
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and noe other person whatsoever
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but they the said James Burton
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Thomas Bludworth and Richard
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Spencer have any interest in the
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same otherwise savinge ?that they
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and each of them beleeveth that
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the vesselle and Company were
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french belonginge to ffrenchmen
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subiects of the ffrench Kinge &
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did come from Roane bound to
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Abervile there to deliver them to
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ffrenchmen whoe were the factors
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of them the said James Burton
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Thomas Bludworth and Richard
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Spencer for their use and Accompt
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to be shipped in a vessell there for
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this port of London XXXX their
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said ffactors could procure the
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same vesselle to bringe them to this
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port of London they ?nor either
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of them doth believe the said articles
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or either of them to be true in any
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part
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[New LH manuscript page, no pagination]
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==Possible primary sources==
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===TNA===
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PROB 11/325 Carr 117-176 Will of Richard Spencer of London 26 September 1667
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PROB 11/352 Bence 109-158 Will of James Burton, Draper of London 08 October 1675
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