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|Transcription=To the 14th hee saith hee never knew the Interrogate damerell till the
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voyage in question, but beleeveth and J him to bee an able sea man and
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hath heard and beleeveth that hee hath gone former voyages to Greeneland for
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the sayd Batson and well vnderstands what it is to goe thither, And further hee
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cannot answere./
  
|First transcriber=Colin Greenstreet
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To the 15th hee saith hee knoweth the Interrogate Reynolds Chametry TO DO: AshmXX
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Kirton and fford and hath knowne them only during the voyage in question and since
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and (soe farr as hee knoweth or remembreth) the first tyme hee sawe them was on
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board the Owners Adventure, And what they are reputed as to their honesty hee
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knoweth not, nor whether they have bin at Greeneland before the voyage in
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question And further saving his foregoeing deposition hee cannot answere/
  
|First transcribed=12/10/19
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To the 16th hee saith hee was never at Greeneland before the voyage in
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question, and did then observe that the Ice there had motion and did somtymes
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open in some places and that the companyes of shipps who goe thither doe
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observe such openings and by benefitt thereof worke within the same
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and further hee cannot answere/
  
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To the last hee saith hee beleeveth in his conscience that in case the sayd
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damerell after hee came out from the Ice ˹as aforesayd˺ had seene any oportunitie to
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have gained wrought in againe and gained a harbour and had Command
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his Company of the Owners Adventure to worke in againe the sayd
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Company would haue yeilded obedience to his Command, and haue
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endeavoured to worke into harbour rather then staye at Sea as they did
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it being a thing which would have more conduced to the health of
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their bodyes, and to their and their Imployers profitt if also if they had
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light upon whales, and saith hee beleeveth that after the sayd shipp
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Owners Adventure wrought out of the Ice to Sea againe there were
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better oportunities of getting to harbour then that shee had when shee
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laye in the Ice and was wrought out thereof to sea as aforesayd, but
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because the X the edge of the Ice was sometymes neerer the shoare
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then where shee wrought out but noe oportunite soe good as that
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shee could get into harbour soe farr as this deponent could observe,
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And saith hee heard not any of the sayd shipps Company after such
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her comming out to seas either encourage the sayd damerell to put into
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the Ice againe, or disswade him from soe doeing./
  
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Repeated the 30th of december
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before doctor Godolphin/
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|Transcription=thereupon as is predeposed spake to the sayd damerell and asked him whether
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John Colvile [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
hee intended to goe, and the sayd damerell replyed as aforesayd in an angrie
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manner and sayd what is that to you, I looke not upon you as one to bee made acquainted
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And the sayd Gosling answering as aforesayd that hee was told upon hyred
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the sayd damerell was to doe nothing of great concernement touching the voyage
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without advice of his Mates and the harponeeres and desyring him therefore to
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consider and to stay and take neighbours fare and not adventure further in than
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the sayd other shipps did whose masters and˺ companyes (hee beleeveth) were as desyred to
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advance their voyage as the sayd damerell and his Company were, and more as
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able men as they, whose company if hee left hee might perhapps (sic) repent to
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late or to that effect the sayd damerell as is predeposed thereupon replyed
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and spake to the sayd Gosling in an angrie manner and sayd I looke upon you but
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as the Cabbin boy and a simple fellowe, with which words the sayd Gosling being
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provoked replyed and sayd wee will goe noe further except there were better
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hope of getting to harbour, and the sayd damerell being therewith much
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displeased called the sayd Gosling pimpeing roague and other reproach=
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full words, wherewith the sayd Gosling being provoaked, did tell the sayd
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damerell that if it pleased God hee did not make a good voyage hee the
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sayd damerell might goe a pimpeing, or And to the rest of the sayd Interrogatorie
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hee answereth negatively for that hee well knoweth that notwithsatnding
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the sayd words the sayd damerell still continueing his Command to worke
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the sayd shipp further into the Ice the sayd Gosling and also the Interrogate
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Maundrie did yeild obedience to the sayd damerells Command and did
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labour and helpe to worke the sayd shipp fower or five myles further
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into the Ice than the other fower shipps went, and did not (soe farrr as
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this deponent heard or observed) stirr up any of the sayd shipps company
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to disobey the sayd damerells Commands either then or at any other
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tyme neither did any of the sayd shipps company soe farr as this deponent
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heard or observed either then or at any other tyme disobey the sayd
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damerells Commands And further saving his foregoeing deposition
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hee cannot answere./
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To the 5th hee was never at Greeneland before the voyage
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in question, and therefore cannot of certaine knowledge answere the
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contents of this Interrogatorie, but saith hee hath heard some seamen who have
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used the sayd voyage, and alsoe the sayd damerell himselfe sayd that
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some yeares whe they have had noe Ice in their passage to Greeneland,
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To the 6th hee cannot answere knowing nothing whether the ''Owners Adventure''
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The 3 of January 1656/
and ''Greyhound'' were designed to any particuler Port or harbour or left at liberty
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nor whether other English shipps were designed to particuler harbours, or not.
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To the 7th hee saith that when the words and difference predeposed of happened
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Examined upon the sayd allegation./
betwixt the sayd Damerell and Gosling in manner afresayd, the shipp
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''Owners Adventure'' was in this deponents Judgment at least tenn leagues
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from shoare, and hee verily beeeveth and is persuaded in his conscience
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(for that hee knoweth the sayd Gosling Maundry and shipps company
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did notwithstanding the words which passed betwixt the sayd Damerell
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and Gosling yeild obedience to the sayd damerells Command and
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worke the sayd shipp some myles further in, and indeed soe farr
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as they could gett her for Ice,) that the sayd shipp could not have bin
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gott into Port or harbour in Greeneland at that tyme or any tyme, and
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<margin value="Bottom right, under main body of text, as lead to next page">that</margin>
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|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
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'''William Clarkson''' of Shadwell in the parish of Stepney
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdFlXNjQ3ekM0WW5NS1oyN250QUpJd0E#gid=0 HCA 3/47 Page Log & Planner]
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and County of Middlesex Shipwright Carpenter of the
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Owners Adventure aged twenty nyne yeares or thereaboutes
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a wittnes sworne and examined saith and deposeth as followeth vizt
  
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To the first article hee saith That hee knoweth that the voyage in question
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was a fishing voyage for Greeneland hee goeing Carpenter of the ''Owners
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Adventure''
 
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To the 14th hee saith hee never knew the Interrogate damerell till the
voyage in question, but beleeveth and J him to bee an able sea man and
hath heard and beleeveth that hee hath gone former voyages to Greeneland for
the sayd Batson and well vnderstands what it is to goe thither, And further hee
cannot answere./

To the 15th hee saith hee knoweth the Interrogate Reynolds Chametry TO DO: AshmXX
Kirton and fford and hath knowne them only during the voyage in question and since
and (soe farr as hee knoweth or remembreth) the first tyme hee sawe them was on
board the Owners Adventure, And what they are reputed as to their honesty hee
knoweth not, nor whether they have bin at Greeneland before the voyage in
question And further saving his foregoeing deposition hee cannot answere/

To the 16th hee saith hee was never at Greeneland before the voyage in
question, and did then observe that the Ice there had motion and did somtymes
open in some places and that the companyes of shipps who goe thither doe
observe such openings and by benefitt thereof worke within the same
and further hee cannot answere/

To the last hee saith hee beleeveth in his conscience that in case the sayd
damerell after hee came out from the Ice ˹as aforesayd˺ had seene any oportunitie to
have gained wrought in againe and gained a harbour and had Command
his Company of the Owners Adventure to worke in againe the sayd
Company would haue yeilded obedience to his Command, and haue
endeavoured to worke into harbour rather then staye at Sea as they did
it being a thing which would have more conduced to the health of
their bodyes, and to their and their Imployers profitt if also if they had
light upon whales, and saith hee beleeveth that after the sayd shipp
Owners Adventure wrought out of the Ice to Sea againe there were
better oportunities of getting to harbour then that shee had when shee
laye in the Ice and was wrought out thereof to sea as aforesayd, but
because the X the edge of the Ice was sometymes neerer the shoare
then where shee wrought out but noe oportunite soe good as that
shee could get into harbour soe farr as this deponent could observe,
And saith hee heard not any of the sayd shipps Company after such
her comming out to seas either encourage the sayd damerell to put into
the Ice againe, or disswade him from soe doeing./

Repeated the 30th of december
before doctor Godolphin/

John Colvile [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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The 3 of January 1656/

Examined upon the sayd allegation./

William Clarkson of Shadwell in the parish of Stepney
and County of Middlesex Shipwright Carpenter of the
Owners Adventure aged twenty nyne yeares or thereaboutes
a wittnes sworne and examined saith and deposeth as followeth vizt

To the first article hee saith That hee knoweth that the voyage in question
was a fishing voyage for Greeneland hee goeing Carpenter of the Owners
Adventure