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The 21th of November 1653. [CENTRE HEADING … The 21th of November 1653. [CENTRE HEADING]
Examined upon the foresaid allegation.
'''2.'''
'''Antonio Fernandez Carvashall''' of London Merchant<br />
54 yeares or thereabouts sworne and examined, saith and deposeth<br />
as followeth.
To the first article hee ssaith and deposeth that by the lawes of Spaine<br />
the exportation of plate from any of the ports of that countrey and kingdome<br />
was and is absolutely forbidden, and that noe man may by those lawes lade<br />
and export any without speciall license first had and obtained, and that<br />
whatsoever parcells shall be found laden without license, are liable to<br />
be confiscated, being seized by any of the kings officers, authorized in that<br />
behalfe; which hee knoweth having lived many yeares and having as a<br />
marchant traded there and thither for theise thirtie yeares last past<br />
And saith that while hee soe lived in Spaine hee sawe and tooke niotice<br />
of many parcells of silver seized and confiscated for being laden without<br />
Registring and license obtained, but never sawe or knew any put to death<br />
for the same. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the second and third articles hee saith that in regard of the danger<br />
and hazard of the lawes of Spaine made against exporting of plate, it<br />
is usuall and frequent to put in feigned names and not the true owners<br />
or laders names into the bills of lading for plate laden without Registring<br />
to the end to conceale the laders from discovery, they being as aforesaid<br />
if discovered liable to the punishment ordained by the said lawes, to the<br />
which lawes hee referreth himselfe. And least any discovery should be made<br />
by the writings sent in the shipp it is usuall to send the true dispatches<br />
(mentioning the true laders) over land to the persons for whom<br />
such plate is laden, and many times the bill of lading (as to the lader)<br />
is left with a blanck, And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the fourth and 5th hee saith that hee beleeveth that there is good store of silver<br />
exzported from Spaine for the accompt of hollanders and subiects of the States<br />
of the United Netherlands since the peace betweene Spaine and holland,<br />
And otherwise hee cannot depose, saving his foregoing deposition to which ee<br />
referreth himselfe.
To the 6th and 7th hee saith hee cannot depose further than as aforesaid.
To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]
To the first hee saith that it is usuall and frequent for marchant<br />
strangers of England, fflaunders and many other countries to lade silver<br />
at Cadiz and Saint Lucars and transport the same thence<br />
to ports beyond the seas and into other countries, and that hreate<br />
quantities of plate are from time to time and have bin exported<br />
from Spaine without license or Registring for England, fflaunders and<br />
other countries, which hee knoweth having as aforesaid lived<br />
many yeares in Spaine and ever since using the trade of Spaine,<br />
And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the second hee saith that hee well knoweth that the merchants of<br />
Antwerp, Gannt, Lile, dunquirke and of other places of fflaunders<br />
and Brabant subiects to the king of Spaine doe drive a greate and<br />
a constant trade thence for Cadiz and Saint Lucars and other parts<br />
of Spaine, and send rich goods thether, and that their factors in<br />
Spaine doe usually make them retournes in silver. And otherwise<br />
hee cannot depose.
To the third hee saith that the names both of laders and of those for whose<br />
accompt any silver is laden are well enough knowne to those concerned<br />
thereinwne to those concerned<br />
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