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|Transcription=to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
 
|Transcription=to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
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amongst them as the master the XXX XXX
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amongst them
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and saith the freight doth only and principally belong withXX the owners But saith that
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and saith the freight doth only and properly belong to the owners; But saith [?that GUTTER]
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as the charter parties made ˹at Lisbone˺ for the Brazila, there is only
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[?as] the Charter parties made at Lisbone for the Brazila, there is only
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expression of payment to l freight and average or avXXXXXX; which
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expression of freight and average or averies; which
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hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average in
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hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average
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our language and or averies in XXXX of the Portugueses ˹charter parties˺ XXXXX one and
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or averies in the Portugueses Charter partiesspecified one and
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the XXXXXXX with per'inage, average and petiladmonage in
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the same thinge with periinage, average and petiladmonage in
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XXX charter parties which are made for other places and not for the
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[?our] Charterparties, which are made for other places and not for the
 
Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
 
Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
  
 
To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
 
To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
 
(before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
 
(before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
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Dover arlate to be shipped then in English shipps for Spaine and Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genoa, Livorne and other places,
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dover arlate to be shipped [?thence] in English shipps for Spaine and
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Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genua, Livorne and other places,
 
and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
 
and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
 
other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
 
other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
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ryall ryall of average upon every docket freight for the said
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ryall of average upon every ducket freight for the said
 
goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
 
goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
 
received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
 
received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
 
companies, without the owners having any pretence thereto or
 
companies, without the owners having any pretence thereto or
 
to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
 
to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
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to any hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.
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to which hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.
  
 
To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]
 
To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]
  
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To the first hee saith hee is and hath lately bin commander
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To the first hee saith hee hath lately bin commander
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of the said shipp Scipio, and went in ˹her˺ from Portugal to Brazela
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of the said shipp ''Scipio'', and went in her from Portugal to Brazela
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in the yeere 1650, and was foXXX XXX by the charterpartie for the said
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in the yeere 1650, and was freighted by Charterpartie for the said
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voyage ˹homewards˺ by the ˹Portugall˺ Brazila company of Lisbone, and with ten fXXXX
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voyage homewards by the Portugall Brazila company, and with that foure
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Mil RXX per tonne was expressedto be the ?HIS for the
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Mil Res per tonne was expressed to be his avarage for the
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said voyage in his charterpartie (which hee hath XXXX with XXXX)
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said voyage in his Charterpartie (which hee hath nowe with him)
 
for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
 
for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
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goods from Braz Portugall hee hath was XXXXX eight
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goods from Portugall hee was to have eight mil Res
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mil Res per tonne freight, and for average upon the XXXX they saith hee
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per tonne freight, and for average upon the same hee saith hee
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received a XXpsen upon every Mil Re of freight ˹according to the captaine˺, but had one
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received a [?teston] upon every Mil Re of freight according to the custome, but had [?noe GUTTER]
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charterpartie for the said outward voyage, but particular and
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Charterpartie for the said outward voyage,and
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saith his owners never claimed XXXXXXXed for the said average. X
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saith his owners never claimed or pretended to the said average.
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any partXXXXs, because they XXX XXXX his charterpartie
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And otherwise
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and thereby bin informed XXXX XXXXXX the pXXXXXXX, And otherwise
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hee cannot answer./
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hee cannot answer./ saying hee
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To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himselfe to
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To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himself to
 
his foregoing deposition.
 
his foregoing deposition.
  
 
To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
 
To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
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shipp the ''Three Brothers'' of London who went the same voyage ˹in XXXXXXX of˺ XXXX this
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shipp the ''Three Brothers'' of London who went the same voyage in company of this
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deponent, hee expressed in his charterpartie a XXX ten ˹for average˺ upon every
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deponent, had expressed in his Charterpartie a teston for average upon every
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XXXX of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
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roove of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
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Morrice commander of the Blessing of dover (who was alsoe
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Morrice commander of the ''Blessing'' of dover (who was alsoe
 
there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
 
there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
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had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having XXX XXXX Charter
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had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having seene their Charter
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parties, and saith had theX XXXX allowance from Lisbone to
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parties, and they had the same allowance from Lisbone to
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Brazila, that this dutchman had as aforesaid. And saith this
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Brazila, that this deponent had as aforesaid. And saith this
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deponents wages was 6l POUNDS STERLING per moneth in sterling money, and soe
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deponents wages was 6 ''li'' per moneth in sterling money, and soe
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much and hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other XXXXXX
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much hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other
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<margin value="Bottom right, below main body of text, as lead to next page">To</margin>
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places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
 
places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
 
as aforesaid.
 
as aforesaid.
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To
  
 
|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
 
|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]

Revision as of 17:27, May 14, 2014

Volume HCA 13/71
Folio 277
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Status
First cut transcription started and completed by Colin Greenstreet on 27/09/12; pasted into wiki and edited on 14/05/14 by Colin Greenstreet
Languages
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First transcriber
Colin Greenstreet
First transcribed
12/09/27
Editorial history
Created 29/12/13, by CSG

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to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
amongst them
and saith the freight doth only and properly belong to the owners; But saith [?that GUTTER]
[?as] the Charter parties made at Lisbone for the Brazila, there is only
expression of freight and average or averies; which
hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average
or averies in the Portugueses Charter partiesspecified one and
the same thinge with periinage, average and petiladmonage in
[?our] Charterparties, which are made for other places and not for the
Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.

To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
(before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
dover arlate to be shipped [?thence] in English shipps for Spaine and
Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genua, Livorne and other places,
and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
ryall of average upon every ducket freight for the said
goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
companies, without the owners having any pretence thereto or
to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
to which hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.

To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first hee saith hee hath lately bin commander
of the said shipp Scipio, and went in her from Portugal to Brazela
in the yeere 1650, and was freighted by Charterpartie for the said
voyage homewards by the Portugall Brazila company, and with that foure
Mil Res per tonne was expressed to be his avarage for the
said voyage in his Charterpartie (which hee hath nowe with him)
for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
goods from Portugall hee was to have eight mil Res
per tonne freight, and for average upon the same hee saith hee
received a [?teston] upon every Mil Re of freight according to the custome, but had [?noe GUTTER]
Charterpartie for the said outward voyage,and
saith his owners never claimed or pretended to the said average.
And otherwise
hee cannot answer./

To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himself to
his foregoing deposition.

To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
shipp the Three Brothers of London who went the same voyage in company of this
deponent, had expressed in his Charterpartie a teston for average upon every
roove of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
Morrice commander of the Blessing of dover (who was alsoe
there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having seene their Charter
parties, and they had the same allowance from Lisbone to
Brazila, that this deponent had as aforesaid. And saith this
deponents wages was 6 li per moneth in sterling money, and soe
much hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other
places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
as aforesaid.

To

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