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|Transcription=port in Spaine Portugal or Italy or from Spaine Portugal or Italy to Saint Malo's, Roane
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New haven, fflanders or dover the masters and companies use by
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custome to have for average upon every bale of strangers goods one Ryall at least
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upon every docket fraight and for English goods a royall upon every bale good and three Ryalls every tonne and this customary allowance hee saith is
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comprized under the names of primage and average, or more properly
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average, and saith there is constantly in English billls, mention made
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of primage and average, a part from the freight, This custome
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and usage hee saith hee hath knowne for theise thirtie yeeres last during
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which space hee hath frequented the sea as a Mariner, and gonne to
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and from severall of those places, and saith the same custome prevailed
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and is observed for other ports and places within and without the Streights.
  
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To the second article hee saith and deposeth that for divers yeares last past
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wherein English shipps have gonne from Lisbone to Brazilia
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manned with English, there hath constantly a certaine average bin
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used to be expressed in every Charter partie and bill of lading for
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and in lieu of average over and besides the freight expressed in the
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said Charter parties and bills, which said average, (as being belonging
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to the masters and mariners, and not to the owners of the shipps) hath
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bin accustomed constantly to be paid and allowed by the ffreighters, and
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that the same was not nor is ever understood to be allowed or given
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to the owners of the shipp imployed, but to the masters and company
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as an encouragement and regard in regard of
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their care and diligence of in stowing and preserving the lading as
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much as in them lives, and depending the same against men of warr
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or otherwise hazarding their lives for the same; and alsoe as an earnest
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or obligation upon them to be carefull of the said lading, in asmuch
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as by their receiving the said average, they stand liable for dammage
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that shall happen by ill stowage or want of due pumping and
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performing their bounden duties in that behalfe, which hee knoweth
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for the reasons aforesaid, and for that hee hath gonne the said voyage
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from Lisbone to Brazila, as commander of the shipp ''Scipio''
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which was manned with English, and this deponent had his Charter
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partie and bills made accordingly.
  
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To the third hee saith that besides their wages there is noe other
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allowance whatsoever to the masters and mariners of any English
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shipps that goe to the Brazila but only the said average expressed
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in the said Charter parties and bills, which hee knoweth for the reasons
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aforesaid, and having bin a commander of shipps for theise twenty
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yeares last and upwards. And otherwise cannot depose.
  
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To the fourth hee cannot depose.
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1. port in Spaine ˹Portugal˺ or Italy or XXXX from Spaine ˹Portugal˺ or Italy to Saint Malo's, Roane
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2. Newhaven, fflanders or dover X the masters and companies use by
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3. XX XXXXXX to XXXX ˹for average˺ to XXX XXXX bale of strangers goods one Ryall at least
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4. upon every docket freight and for ˹English goods a royall XXX Xall bale good and thXXX XXXX upon XXX XXXX˺ and this customary allowance hee saith is
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5. comprized under the names of primage and average, or more properly
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6. of primage and average, a part from the freight, This custome
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7. and usage hee saith hee hath knowne for theise thirtie yeeres last during
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8. which space hee hath frequented the sea as a Mariner, and gonne to
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9. and from severall of these places, and saith the same custome prevailed
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10. and is observed for other ports and places within and without the Streights.
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11. To the second article hee saith and deposeth that for divers yeeres last past
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12. that ˹wherein˺ English shipps have gonne from Engl Lisbone to Brazilie
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13. manned with English, there hath constantly a certaine average bin
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14. used to be expressed in every Charter partie and bill of lading for
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15. and in lieu of average over and besides the freight expressed in the
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16. said Charter parties and bills, which said average, (as being belonging
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17. to the masters and mariners and not to the owners of the shipps) hath
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18. bin accustomed constantly to be paid and allowed by the ffreighters, and
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19. that they XXXX XXXX not more is XXXX understand to be allowed or given
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20. to the owner of the shipp imployed, but to the masters and company
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21. as an encouragement and regard in regard of the danger they undergoe
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22. and their care and diligence of in stowing and performing the lading as
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23. much as in them lives, and depending the same against men of warr
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24. or otherwise hazarding their lives for the same; and alsoe as an earnest
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25. or obligation upon them to be carefull of the said lading, in asmuch
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26. as by their receiving the said average, they stand liable for dammage
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27. that shall happen by ill stowage or XXXXX of due XXXXXXing and
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28. performing their bounden duties in that XX alsoe, which hee knoweth
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29. for the reasons aforesaid, and for that hee hath gonne the said voyage
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30. from Lisbone to Brazile, as X commander of the shipp Scipio
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31. which was manned with English, and this deponent had his Charter
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32. partie and bills made accordingly.
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33. To the third hee saith that besides their wages there is noe other
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34. allowance whatsoever to the masters and mariners of any English
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35. shipps that goe to the Brazila but only the said average expressed
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36. in the said charter parties and bills, which hee knoweth for the reasons
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37. aforesaid, and having bin a commander of shipps for theise twenty
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38. yeeres last and upwards. And otherwise cannot depose.To the fourth hee cannot depose.
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39. To the fifth hee saith that the said average doth really and soly
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40. belong to the master and company, and not to the owners or any other
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41. and this hee saith was and is publique and notorious. And otherwise
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42. saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
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43. To the sixth hee saith that usually and accustomably ˹at London˺ there is in all
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44. charter parties made for ˹other˺ voyages (and not for the Brazile) the summe
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45. for freight in particular expressed, and besides the freight theras is
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46. commonly expressed primage, average and pettitloadmonage amongst
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47. (or pettilodsmoney) accustomed, and with the said primage, average and
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48. pettiloedemonage hath from time to time belonged and doth alwaies belong
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To the fifth hee saith that the said average doth really and soly
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belong to the master and company, and not to the owners or any other
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and this hee saith was and is publique and notorious. And otherwise
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saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
  
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To the sixth hee saith that usually and accustomably at London there is in all
 +
Charterparties made for other voyages (and not for the Brazila) the summe
 +
for freight in particular expressed, and besides the freight there is
 +
commonly expressed primage, average and pettitloadmonage
 +
(or pettilodsmoney) accustomed, and saith the said primage, average and
 +
pettiloadmonage hath from time to time belonged and doth alwaies belong
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to
 
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Volume HCA 13/71
Folio 277
Side Recto
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Uploaded image; transcribed on 27/09/2012
Languages
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IMAGE: P1130713.JPG
First transcriber
Colin Greenstreet
First transcribed
2012/09/27
Editorial history
Edited on 09/05/2014 by Colin Greenstreet

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port in Spaine Portugal or Italy or from Spaine Portugal or Italy to Saint Malo's, Roane
New haven, fflanders or dover the masters and companies use by
custome to have for average upon every bale of strangers goods one Ryall at least
upon every docket fraight and for English goods a royall upon every bale good and three Ryalls every tonne and this customary allowance hee saith is
comprized under the names of primage and average, or more properly
average, and saith there is constantly in English billls, mention made
of primage and average, a part from the freight, This custome
and usage hee saith hee hath knowne for theise thirtie yeeres last during
which space hee hath frequented the sea as a Mariner, and gonne to
and from severall of those places, and saith the same custome prevailed
and is observed for other ports and places within and without the Streights.

To the second article hee saith and deposeth that for divers yeares last past
wherein English shipps have gonne from Lisbone to Brazilia
manned with English, there hath constantly a certaine average bin
used to be expressed in every Charter partie and bill of lading for
and in lieu of average over and besides the freight expressed in the
said Charter parties and bills, which said average, (as being belonging
to the masters and mariners, and not to the owners of the shipps) hath
bin accustomed constantly to be paid and allowed by the ffreighters, and
that the same was not nor is ever understood to be allowed or given
to the owners of the shipp imployed, but to the masters and company
as an encouragement and regard in regard of
their care and diligence of in stowing and preserving the lading as
much as in them lives, and depending the same against men of warr
or otherwise hazarding their lives for the same; and alsoe as an earnest
or obligation upon them to be carefull of the said lading, in asmuch
as by their receiving the said average, they stand liable for dammage
that shall happen by ill stowage or want of due pumping and
performing their bounden duties in that behalfe, which hee knoweth
for the reasons aforesaid, and for that hee hath gonne the said voyage
from Lisbone to Brazila, as commander of the shipp Scipio
which was manned with English, and this deponent had his Charter
partie and bills made accordingly.

To the third hee saith that besides their wages there is noe other
allowance whatsoever to the masters and mariners of any English
shipps that goe to the Brazila but only the said average expressed
in the said Charter parties and bills, which hee knoweth for the reasons
aforesaid, and having bin a commander of shipps for theise twenty
yeares last and upwards. And otherwise cannot depose.

To the fourth hee cannot depose.

To the fifth hee saith that the said average doth really and soly
belong to the master and company, and not to the owners or any other
and this hee saith was and is publique and notorious. And otherwise
saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.

To the sixth hee saith that usually and accustomably at London there is in all
Charterparties made for other voyages (and not for the Brazila) the summe
for freight in particular expressed, and besides the freight there is
commonly expressed primage, average and pettitloadmonage
(or pettilodsmoney) accustomed, and saith the said primage, average and
pettiloadmonage hath from time to time belonged and doth alwaies belong
to

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