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To the second hee saith that there is an allowance of a certaine dutie in the said
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Brazila voyages to the master and company, under the name of or
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terme of '''Gindage''', which is there usually paid to the master and
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company, as primage and average are in England; and saith
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that at such time of his being at Lisbone, there was noe obligation
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on the master and company for dammage happening to the goods
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in the voyage, but the same was usually laid upon the goods in a generall
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average, and therefore they had noe other allowance but their
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wages and gindage, saving that some owners have allowed the
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Commanders a gratuitie to the valew of fiftie pounds or thereabouts
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according to the burthen of the shipp, and that was for his
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extraordinary paines and hazard; And otherwise hee cannot answer.
  
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To the third hee saith that the Hollanders being more potent at sea
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than the other nations interrogated, and the Portugueses being weake at sea,
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the English shipps serving the Portugueses in the foresaid voyages saile
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in more hazard and danger, than those that serve the other nations
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interrogated. And otherwise hee cannot answer, saving as aforesaid,
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and saving hee saith that Brazila is a place whereto wormes
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much eate and destroy the shipping, and the heate of the climate
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is very destructive to the shipping, and therefore the weare and
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teare are the greater.
  
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To the 5th hee saith hee doth not knowe of any such treatie
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2. saving as aforesaid.
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betweene master and owner, saving for the shipp ''hanibal'' of
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3. To the second hee saith that there is an allowance ˹of a certaine dutie˺ in XX the said
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London, which being a shipp of greate burthen and her owners
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4. Brazila voyages to the master and company, under the name of or
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intending to send her for Portugall there to be freighted for
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5. terme of Gindage, which is there usually paid to the master and
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the Brazila, they to prevent any future differences declared
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6. company, as primage and average are in England; and saith
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to the commander that hee should not pretend to the average
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7. that at such time of his being at Lisbone, there was noe obligation
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for that voyage in case of proceeding thereupon, but hee
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8. on the master and company for dammage happening to the goods
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insisting to have a part thereof, the owners thereupon altered
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9. in the voyage, but the same was usually laid upon the goods in a generall
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their intention of sending her for Portugall, and ordered him
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10. average, and therefore they had noe other allowance but their
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the said commander to lay her in for Italy, howbeit hee
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11. wages and gindage, saving that some owners have allowed the
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saith that in such treatie, the owners would have given him
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12. Commanders a gratuitie to the valew of fiftie pounds or thereabouts
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some allowance out of the average or otherwise as an incouragement
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13. according to the burthen of the shipp, and that was for his extraordinary
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to ge the said Portugall voyage. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
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14. extraordinary paines and hazard; And otherwise hee cannot answer.
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15. To the third hee saith that the Hollanders being more potent at sea
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16. than the other nations interrogated, and the Portuguese being weake at sea,
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17. the English shipps serving the Portugueses in the foresaid voyages saile
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18. in more hazard and danger, than those that serve the other nations
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19. interrogated. And otherwise hee cannot answer, saving as aforesaid,
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20. and saving hee saith that Brazila is a place whereto warrants
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21. much date and destroy the shipping, and the heate of the climate
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22. is very destructive to the shipping, and therefore the weare and
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23. teare ˹are˺ the greater.
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24. To the fourth hee cannot answer.
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25. To the 5th hee saith hee doth not knowe of any such treatie
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26. betweene master and owner, saving for the shipp hanibal of
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27. London, which being a shipp of greate burthen and her owners
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28. intending to send her for Portugall and there to be freighted for
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29. the Brazila, they to prevent any future differences declared
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30. to the commander that hee should not prestend to the avereage
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31. for that voyage in case of proceeding thereupon, but hee
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32. insisting to have a part thereof, the owners thereupon altered
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33. their intention of sending her for Portugall, and ordered him
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34. the said commander to lay in for Italy, howbeit hee
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35. saith that in such treatie, the owners would have given him
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36. some allowance out of the average or otherwise as an incouragement
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37. to ge the said Portugall voyage. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
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38. To the sixth hee saith that formerly fiansa hath usually
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39. bin given on behalfe of the commander and shipp for their
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40. retourne from BRazila back to the Lisbone, and such
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41. fiansa hath usually bin entred or given by the marchants ˹owners˺ or
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42. their factors on their behalfe at Lisbone, who habe procured
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43. the said voyage, And saith that severalll English shipps were
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44. the said voyage before the ˹interrogated˺ said dobbins, And otherwise hee cannot
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45. answer saving as aforesaid.
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46. To the 7th hee referreth himselfe to who hee hath predeposed
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To the sixth hee saith that formerly '''fiansa''' hath usually
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bin given on behalfe of the commander and shipp for their
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retourne from Brazila back to Lisbone, and such
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'''fiansa''' hath usually bin entred or given by the owners or
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their factors on their behalfe at Lisbone, who habe procured
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the said voyage, And saith that severalll English shipps went
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the said voyage before the interrogated dobbins, And otherwise hee cannot
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answer saving as aforesaid.
  
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To the 7th hee referreth himselfe to what hee hath predeposed
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and
 
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Volume HCA 13/71
Folio 592
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IMAGE: P1140434.JPG
First transcriber
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First transcribed
2013/03/28
Editorial history
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of goods happening by their neglect, and otherwise cannot answer
saving as aforesaid.

To the second hee saith that there is an allowance of a certaine dutie in the said
Brazila voyages to the master and company, under the name of or
terme of Gindage, which is there usually paid to the master and
company, as primage and average are in England; and saith
that at such time of his being at Lisbone, there was noe obligation
on the master and company for dammage happening to the goods
in the voyage, but the same was usually laid upon the goods in a generall
average, and therefore they had noe other allowance but their
wages and gindage, saving that some owners have allowed the
Commanders a gratuitie to the valew of fiftie pounds or thereabouts
according to the burthen of the shipp, and that was for his
extraordinary paines and hazard; And otherwise hee cannot answer.

To the third hee saith that the Hollanders being more potent at sea
than the other nations interrogated, and the Portugueses being weake at sea,
the English shipps serving the Portugueses in the foresaid voyages saile
in more hazard and danger, than those that serve the other nations
interrogated. And otherwise hee cannot answer, saving as aforesaid,
and saving hee saith that Brazila is a place whereto wormes
much eate and destroy the shipping, and the heate of the climate
is very destructive to the shipping, and therefore the weare and
teare are the greater.

To the fourth hee cannot answer.

To the 5th hee saith hee doth not knowe of any such treatie
betweene master and owner, saving for the shipp hanibal of
London, which being a shipp of greate burthen and her owners
intending to send her for Portugall there to be freighted for
the Brazila, they to prevent any future differences declared
to the commander that hee should not pretend to the average
for that voyage in case of proceeding thereupon, but hee
insisting to have a part thereof, the owners thereupon altered
their intention of sending her for Portugall, and ordered him
the said commander to lay her in for Italy, howbeit hee
saith that in such treatie, the owners would have given him
some allowance out of the average or otherwise as an incouragement
to ge the said Portugall voyage. And otherwise hee cannot depose.

To the sixth hee saith that formerly fiansa hath usually
bin given on behalfe of the commander and shipp for their
retourne from Brazila back to Lisbone, and such
fiansa hath usually bin entred or given by the owners or
their factors on their behalfe at Lisbone, who habe procured
the said voyage, And saith that severalll English shipps went
the said voyage before the interrogated dobbins, And otherwise hee cannot
answer saving as aforesaid.

To the 7th hee referreth himselfe to what hee hath predeposed
and

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