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|Transcription=to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
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amongst them
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and saith the freight doth only and properly belong to the owners; But saith [?that GUTTER]
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[?as] the Charter parties made at Lisbone for the Brazila, there is only
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expression of freight and average or averies; which
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hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average
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or averies in the Portuguese Charter parties specified one and
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the same thinge with perinage, average and petiladmonage in
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[?our] Charterparties, which are made for other places and not for the
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Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
  
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To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
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(before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
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dover arlate to be shipped [?thence] in English shipps for Spaine and
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Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genua, Livorne and other places,
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and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
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other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
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ryall of average upon every ducket freight for the said
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goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
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received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
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companies, without the owners having any pretence thereto or
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to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
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to which hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.
  
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To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]
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To the first hee saith hee hath lately bin commander
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of the said shipp ''Scipio'', and went in her from Portugal to Brazela
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in the yeere 1650, and was freighted by Charterpartie for the said
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voyage homewards by the Portugall Brazila company, and with that foure
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Mil Res per tonne was expressed to be his avarage for the
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said voyage in his Charterpartie (which hee hath nowe with him)
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for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
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goods from Portugall hee was to have eight mil Res
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per tonne freight, and for average upon the same hee saith hee
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received a [?teston] upon every Mil Re of freight according to the custome, but had [?noe GUTTER]
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Charterpartie for the said outward voyage,and
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saith his owners never claimed or pretended to the said average.
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And otherwise
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hee cannot answer./
  
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To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himself to
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1. to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
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his foregoing deposition.
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2. amongst them as the master the XXX XXX
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3. and saith ˹the freight doth˺ only and principally belong withXX the owners But saith that
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4. as the charter parties made ˹at Lisbone˺ for the Brazila, there is only
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5. expression of payment to l freight and average or avXXXXXX; which
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6. hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average in
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7. our language and or averies in XXXX of the Portugueses ˹charter parties˺ XXXXX one and
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8. the XXXXXXX with per'inage, average and petiladmonage in
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9. XXX charter parties which are made for other places and not for the
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10. Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.
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11. To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
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12. (before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
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13. Dover arlate to be shipped then in English shipps for Spaine and Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genoa, Livorne and other places,
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14. and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
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15. other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
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16. ryall ryall of average upon every docket freight for the said
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17. goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
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18. received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
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19. companies, without the woners having any pretence thereto or
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20. to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
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21. to any hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.
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23. To the Interrogatories.
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24. To the first hee saith hee is and hath lately bin commander
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25. of the said shipp Scipio, and went in ˹her˺ from Portugal to Brazela
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26. in the yeere 1650, and was foXXX XXX by the charterpartie for the said
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27. voyage ˹homewards˺ by the ˹Portugall˺ Brazila company of Lisbone, and with ten fXXXX
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28. Mil RXX per tonne was expressedto be the ?HIS for the
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29. said voyage in his charterpartie (which hee hath XXXX with XXXX)
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30. for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
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31. goods from Braz Portugall hee hath was XXXXX eight
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32. mil Res per tonne freight, and for average upon the XXXX they saith hee
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33. received a XXpsen upon every Mil Re of freight ˹according to the captaine˺, but had one
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34. charterpartie for the said outward voyage, but particular and
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35. saith his owners never claimed XXXXXXXed for the said average. X
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36. any partXXXXs, because they XXX XXXX his charterpartie
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37. and thereby bin informed XXXX XXXXXX the pXXXXXXX, And otherwise
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38. hee cannot answer./ saying hee
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39. To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himselfe to
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40. his foregoing deposition.
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41. To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
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42. shipp the Three Brothers ˹of London˺ who went the same voyage ˹in XXXXXXX of˺ XXXX this
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43. deponent, hee expressed in his charterpartie a XXX ten ˹for average˺ upon every
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44. XXXX of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
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45. Morrice commander of the Blessing of dover (who was alsoe
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46. there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
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47. had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having XXX XXXX Charter
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48. parties, and saith had theX XXXX allowance from Lisbone to
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49. Brazila, that this dutchman had as aforesaid. And saith this
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50. deponents wages was 6l POUNDS STERLING per moneth in sterling money, and soe
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51. much and hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other XXXXXX
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53. places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
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54. as aforesaid.
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To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
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shipp the ''Three Brothers'' of London who went the same voyage in company of this
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deponent, had expressed in his Charterpartie a teston for average upon every
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roove of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
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Morrice commander of the ''Blessing'' of dover (who was alsoe
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there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
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had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having seene their Charter
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parties, and they had the same allowance from Lisbone to
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Brazila, that this deponent had as aforesaid. And saith this
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deponents wages was 6 ''li'' per moneth in sterling money, and soe
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much hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other
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places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
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as aforesaid.
  
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Volume HCA 13/71
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First transcriber
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First transcribed
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Editorial history
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to the master and company of the shipp, and is usually devided
amongst them
and saith the freight doth only and properly belong to the owners; But saith [?that GUTTER]
[?as] the Charter parties made at Lisbone for the Brazila, there is only
expression of freight and average or averies; which
hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, and saith that average
or averies in the Portuguese Charter parties specified one and
the same thinge with perinage, average and petiladmonage in
[?our] Charterparties, which are made for other places and not for the
Brazila. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot depose.

To the seventh hee saith that diverse goods and merchandizes
(before the warrs with Spaine) were usually sent from fflanders to
dover arlate to be shipped [?thence] in English shipps for Spaine and
Italy, as Cadiz, Saint Lucars, Genua, Livorne and other places,
and they have bin frequently shipped off from dover for the said
other ports, and saith they have usually paid at least a
ryall of average upon every ducket freight for the said
goods, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent hath often
received it, and saith the said average hath belonged to the master and
companies, without the owners having any pretence thereto or
to any part thereof, and otherwise saving his foregoeing deposition
to which hee referreth himselfe hee cannot depose.

To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first hee saith hee hath lately bin commander
of the said shipp Scipio, and went in her from Portugal to Brazela
in the yeere 1650, and was freighted by Charterpartie for the said
voyage homewards by the Portugall Brazila company, and with that foure
Mil Res per tonne was expressed to be his avarage for the
said voyage in his Charterpartie (which hee hath nowe with him)
for the goods laden from Brazila for Portugal, and for the
goods from Portugall hee was to have eight mil Res
per tonne freight, and for average upon the same hee saith hee
received a [?teston] upon every Mil Re of freight according to the custome, but had [?noe GUTTER]
Charterpartie for the said outward voyage,and
saith his owners never claimed or pretended to the said average.
And otherwise
hee cannot answer./

To the second hee answereth negatively, and referreth himself to
his foregoing deposition.

To the third hee saith that John Wilky commander of the
shipp the Three Brothers of London who went the same voyage in company of this
deponent, had expressed in his Charterpartie a teston for average upon every
roove of sugar laden from Brazila for Lisbone, and Robert
Morrice commander of the Blessing of dover (who was alsoe
there with them) had the same allowance for average as this deponent
had as aforesaid, which hee knoweth having seene their Charter
parties, and they had the same allowance from Lisbone to
Brazila, that this deponent had as aforesaid. And saith this
deponents wages was 6 li per moneth in sterling money, and soe
much hee had for other voyages in the Streights and other
places in ordinary voyages; And otherwise hee cannot answer saving
as aforesaid.

To

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