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- ''HCA 13/71 f.158r Case: John Furley iunior and John Page against Richard Jacobs Edward Godwin and Henry Tiddeman; Deposition: 1. William Lowe of Colchester in the County of Essex Mariner Master of the ketch Coronation, aged thirty eight yeares; Date: 26/04/1656. Transcribed by Janet Few''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=681&scripto_doc_page_id=488 HCA 13/71 f.158r]</ref>
 
- ''HCA 13/71 f.158r Case: John Furley iunior and John Page against Richard Jacobs Edward Godwin and Henry Tiddeman; Deposition: 1. William Lowe of Colchester in the County of Essex Mariner Master of the ketch Coronation, aged thirty eight yeares; Date: 26/04/1656. Transcribed by Janet Few''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=681&scripto_doc_page_id=488 HCA 13/71 f.158r]</ref>
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'''Price of serges in Colchester at time of their attempted export to Rotterdam'''
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The Colchester Customs collector, James Vickers, gave detailed testimony as to the going rate for serges at the time of Page and ffurley's attempted export of mixed serges to Rotterdam.
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* "24. To the third article hee saith he cannot depose for that hee saw not
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25. the sayd peices, nor knoweth the qualities thereof, but saith that
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26. the usuall rate of mixed serges of twelve pounds weight per
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27. peice is about three pounds ten shillings the first penny.
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28. and white serges are usually sold the first penny att betwixt
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29. four pounds and five pounds per peice. And much after
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30. that rate serges of that nature were sold for att Colchester the
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31. first penny about the latter end of the yeare 1653. All which
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32. this deponent hath observed being Collector for the Customes
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33. there as aforesayd. And otherwise he cannot depose
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34. To the 4th article he saith he hath credibly heard that att that tyme such
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35. serges might have bene sold att Roterdam to very good
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36. proffitt. And otherwise he cannot depose."
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- ''HCA 13/71 f.160v Case: On the behalfe of the sayd Mary Dell against the shipp the Three Sisters; Deposition: 2. John Vickers of Colchester in the County of Essex merchant and Collector of the Customs there, aged forty one yeares; Date: 28/04/1656. Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=681&scripto_doc_page_id=493 HCA 13/71 f.160v]</ref>
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<u>Possible resources</u>
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John Vickers: Mayor of Colchester (1655) ('Complete List of Colchester mayors', Charles E. Benham, Colchester worthies. a biographical index of Colchester (London & Colchester, 1892), p. 64 (http://archive.org/stream/colchesterworthi00benh#page/64/mode/2up)

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Textile trade

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25/11/12: CSG, created page



Purpose of page

The MarineLives project is seeking to link and enhance HCA 13/71, not just to transcribe it.

Specific textile types and their places or origin are mentioned in many HCA 13/71 cases and depositions.

All associates, facilitators, advisors and PhD Forum members are encouraged to contribute to this page from their knowledge of the material, and from their broader knowledge and interest in the topic.

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Norwich stuffs traded to Spain and the Canaries


Twenty-five year olf London merchant, Elias Watson, testified as to the great loss and damage suffered by XXXX Cowse, "especially in the Aurellas Cheynies and ffloranides Schedulate being (in all forty peeces of Norwich stuffs)." These goods were to have been sold at Saint Lucar in Spain, but were instead transported to Palma in the Canaries, where, according to Watson, the agents of Cowse were forced to pay multiple unnecessary customs duties. Moreover, due to the outbreak of war between England and Spain, Watson claimed that Watson was unable to recover the money for the goods when he sold them in Palma.

  • "1. therefore is fully convinced in conscience that the sayd Cowse

2. by the sayd Keene his delivery of the sayd goods Schedulate at Saint
3. Lucar and not bringing them to Palma (according as by bill of
4. ladeing it appeared to this deponent hee was bound to doe) hath suffered
5. great losse and dammage especially in the Aurellas
6. Cheynies and ffloranides Schedulate being (in all forty peeces of Norwich
7. stuffs) which by reason they could not bee sold at Saint Lucars were
8. afterwards transported for Palma, and the sayd Cowse his Agents
9. being forced to pay three, (if not fower) severall Customes for the
10. sayd stuffes, beside severall other charges, (this deponent him selfe
11. paying one of the sayd Customes in the Island of Palma and Mr
12. John Lasby an other of Cowse his Correspondents an other Customes
13. for the sayd stuffs in the Island of Teneriff, beside the customes paid
14. at Saint Lucar for them) and hee knoweth that the sayd Cowse by the sayd
15. stuffes being landed at Saint Lucar and afterwards of necessitie being transported
16. to Palma did suffer ˹other˺ losse and dammage alsoe for that after this
17. deponent had sold a part of them at Palma hee this deponent by
18. reason of the Imbargo upon Englishmens estates occasioned by
19. the warrs betwixt England and Spaine (which broke out before hee this
20. deponent could dispose of the sayd stuffes) could never recover any thing
21. for them of those hee had sold them to, for that the
22. sayd Cowse was of this deponents knowledge damnified in the
23. sale of the sayd stuffes only, at the least fifty pounds sterling by
24. the meanes aforesayd but what his further dammage was hee
25. this deponent cannot estimate And further to this article hee
26. cannot depose./"

- HCA 13/71 f.508r Case: Cowse against Keene; Deposition: 9. Elias Watson of the parish of Saint Mary Woolchurch London Merchant aged 25 yeares; Date: Probably 10/03/1656 ("Same day"). Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet[2]



Colchester serges traded to the United Provinces


Colchester serges seized en route to Rotterdam

William Lowe, the thirty-eight year old Master of the ketch the Coronation testified regarding the seizure of Colchester serges from his ship by a private man of war, a galliot hoy, on his way to Rotterdam. He provided estimated values for the parcels of white and brown serges seized, and suggested that by reason of the scarcity of such goods due to war, they might have commanded significantly higher prices than those estimated.

  • "8. To the second Article of the sayd allegation This deponent saith, That soone after the lading

9. of the sayd searges the sayd vessell the Coronation also the ffortune
10. did sett sayle with the sayd goods towards the Port of Rotterdam, and
11. in her course thither she was mett withall and sett upon by a Galliot
12. hoy being a private Man of Warr of Dover under the Command of
13. Dirick Hendrix alias Swayne neere unto the Maze about the beginning
14. of March 1653. aforesayd and the sayd Hendrix with some of his
15. Company did come on board the sayd Ketch, and this deponent being present
16. they seized and tooke in their possessions and perused the Cocketts and
17. other dispatches that concerned the sayd searges and notwithstanding that they
18. did see by the sayd Cocketts and other writings, that the sayd searges did
19. belong to the sayd John Furley and John Page of Colchester aforesaid,
20. yet the sayd Hendrix did take and carry away out of the sayd Ketch
21. the sayd twenty peices of mixed serges which were made up in two
22. packes belonging to the sayd John Farley Jun; and the sayd ten
23. pieces of white serges which were made up allso in two other packs
24. belonging to the sayd John Page, and did ćarry away the same and
25. dispose them at his owne will and pleasure. All which this deponent
26. knoweth to be true being then Master of the sayd Ketch and an eye
27. witnesse of the sayd premisses. And otherwise he cannot depose.
28. To the third ˹and fourth˺ articles of the said allegation This deponent saith that by the experience
29. he hath of Colchester serges and the usuall prices they yield in
30. Holland where he hath often tymes sold such serges, he doth verily
31. believe that the sayd twenty pieces of mixed serges were att the
32. tyme of their lading with the Customes and other dutyes discharged
33. ˹to be sold in Holland˺ worth eighty pounds sterling or thereabouts, and the sayd ten
34. pieces of white serges which the Customes and other dutyes worth
35. the sume of seventy pounds sterling or thereabouts and that the sayd
36. twenty and ten peices would then have yeilded the sayd respective prices
37. or neere thereabouts att Rotterdam and otherwise he ćannot depose
38. saving that he saith that the sayd serges had they not bene so seized by the
39. said Hendrix had in and would in all probability have arrived in safety
40. att Rotterdam and saving that he saith It is very probable that by
41. reason of the scarcity of English serges att that tyme in Holland (the
42. trade being interrupted by the warr) such goods would and might have
43. yeilded there a farr greater summe than this deponent hath predeposed
44. of...."

- HCA 13/71 f.158r Case: John Furley iunior and John Page against Richard Jacobs Edward Godwin and Henry Tiddeman; Deposition: 1. William Lowe of Colchester in the County of Essex Mariner Master of the ketch Coronation, aged thirty eight yeares; Date: 26/04/1656. Transcribed by Janet Few[3]

Price of serges in Colchester at time of their attempted export to Rotterdam

The Colchester Customs collector, James Vickers, gave detailed testimony as to the going rate for serges at the time of Page and ffurley's attempted export of mixed serges to Rotterdam.

  • "24. To the third article hee saith he cannot depose for that hee saw not

25. the sayd peices, nor knoweth the qualities thereof, but saith that
26. the usuall rate of mixed serges of twelve pounds weight per
27. peice is about three pounds ten shillings the first penny.
28. and white serges are usually sold the first penny att betwixt
29. four pounds and five pounds per peice. And much after
30. that rate serges of that nature were sold for att Colchester the
31. first penny about the latter end of the yeare 1653. All which
32. this deponent hath observed being Collector for the Customes
33. there as aforesayd. And otherwise he cannot depose
34. To the 4th article he saith he hath credibly heard that att that tyme such
35. serges might have bene sold att Roterdam to very good
36. proffitt. And otherwise he cannot depose."

- HCA 13/71 f.160v Case: On the behalfe of the sayd Mary Dell against the shipp the Three Sisters; Deposition: 2. John Vickers of Colchester in the County of Essex merchant and Collector of the Customs there, aged forty one yeares; Date: 28/04/1656. Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet[4]

Possible resources

John Vickers: Mayor of Colchester (1655) ('Complete List of Colchester mayors', Charles E. Benham, Colchester worthies. a biographical index of Colchester (London & Colchester, 1892), p. 64 (http://archive.org/stream/colchesterworthi00benh#page/64/mode/2up)
  1. Electronic link to a digital source
  2. HCA 13/71 f.508r
  3. HCA 13/71 f.158r
  4. HCA 13/71 f.160v