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==Portuguese merchants freighting goods from London on English ships==
 
==Portuguese merchants freighting goods from London on English ships==
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* "The shipp the Black boy was freighted and hired by hee this deponent of and from his precontest Robert Gale (owner of her) in or about June last to make a voyage to the Jamaica Islands to take wines and other merchandizes, and to retourne therewith and to follow the freighters orders, and that hee soe freighted her for account of himselfe and other Portuguese living in this citie, and that they laded her outwards with serges, cloth and other goods, and that at the Canaries there were laden for their account 149 pipes of wines as by the papers transmitted them XXXather hath bin manifested XXXXX, And saith that the said shipp comming from thense with the said wines for the downes, was about fourteene dayes since cast away by storme and fault or error of the mariners at BXXXX in the Ile of Wight as this deponent hath by lettres bin informed..."
 
* "The shipp the Black boy was freighted and hired by hee this deponent of and from his precontest Robert Gale (owner of her) in or about June last to make a voyage to the Jamaica Islands to take wines and other merchandizes, and to retourne therewith and to follow the freighters orders, and that hee soe freighted her for account of himselfe and other Portuguese living in this citie, and that they laded her outwards with serges, cloth and other goods, and that at the Canaries there were laden for their account 149 pipes of wines as by the papers transmitted them XXXather hath bin manifested XXXXX, And saith that the said shipp comming from thense with the said wines for the downes, was about fourteene dayes since cast away by storme and fault or error of the mariners at BXXXX in the Ile of Wight as this deponent hath by lettres bin informed..."
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==Portuguese correspondents of London merchants==
  
 
- ''HCA 13/71 f.412r Case: On the behalfe of Antonio Rodrigo Robles and others touching the casting away of the Blackboy;  Deposition: 3. Antonio Roderigo Robles of London Merchant, aged 37 yeeres; Date: 17/11/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=903&scripto_doc_page_id=1001 HCA 13/71 f.412r]</ref>
 
- ''HCA 13/71 f.412r Case: On the behalfe of Antonio Rodrigo Robles and others touching the casting away of the Blackboy;  Deposition: 3. Antonio Roderigo Robles of London Merchant, aged 37 yeeres; Date: 17/11/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=903&scripto_doc_page_id=1001 HCA 13/71 f.412r]</ref>
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==Young Portuguese merchant in London==
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Augustine Coronell (incorrectly written as Colonell by the Admiralty clerk) was a thirty year old Portuguese merchant, living in London
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* "To the 2 hee saith he is a Portugese by byrth and is noe assurer of any
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part of the goods in question nor any way concerned in them
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And otherwise negatively./
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To the 3 hee saith hee never lived in holland or fflanders save
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only as a soionener for a moneth or some such smale tyme
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at seuerall places as Amsterdam Rotterdam and other places
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in Zealand and at Antwerpe and Bruxells and other places in
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fflanders,..."
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- ''HCA 13/71 f.537v Case: Goodwin and Company against the Saint John; Deposition: 4. Augustine Colonell of London Merchant aged thirty yeares; Date: 04/02/1656 ("same day"). Transcribed by Jill Wilcox''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1194 HCA 13/71 f.537v]</ref>
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Coronell arranged false bills of lading for goods shipped from Lisbon to France, to avoid their seizure by the Spanish
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* "18. To the 7th article hee saith hee well knoweth that within the yeares
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and moneths arlate and since the Pease betweene the King of Spaine
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and the Lords of the United Provinces hee this deponent being by
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birth a Portuguese but for these three yeares an Inhabitant of the
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Cittie of London as a Merchant Stranger and in both respects an
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Enymie to the King of Spaine hath in the sayd tyme receaved seuerall
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Merchandizes from Lisbone here in London and had for his owne
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Accompte and ˹hath had˺ severall goods sent for this deponents Accompt from
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Lisbone to ffrance, but for the better preserveing them from being
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seized if mett with by any men of warr subiects of the King of Spaine
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hee this deponent hath caused his Correspondents at Lisbone
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to take bills of ladeing for the sayd goods as laden for Accompt of
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subiects of the States of the United Provinces and as bound for
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the United Provinces when in reality the same were bound for ffrance
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or England countryes in hostility with the King of Spaine, and
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for Accompt of this deponent a subiect of Portuguese and an
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Inhabitant of England And saith it is a usuall practize among
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Merchants of such Countries as are in hostility with the Spaniard
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or have goods sent from any Country in hostility with the
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Spaniard, or to any Country in hostility with him to make
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the like colourable bills as if the same were for Accompt of the
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subiects of Princes or States in Amity with the King of Spaine
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and bound to Countries in Amity with him..."
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- ''HCA 13/71 f.537r Case: Goodwin and Company against the Saint John; Deposition: 4. Augustine Colonell of London Merchant aged thirty yeares; Date: 04/02/1656 ("same day"). Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1193 HCA 13/71 f.537r]</ref>

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Portuguese merchants in London

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Lisbon
Oporto
Portugal

Flemish merchants
French merchants
Spanish merchants in London
Swedish and Norwegian merchants


Portuguese merchants freighting goods from London on English ships


Loss of the Black Boy off the Isle of Wight

  • "The shipp the Black boy was freighted and hired by hee this deponent of and from his precontest Robert Gale (owner of her) in or about June last to make a voyage to the Jamaica Islands to take wines and other merchandizes, and to retourne therewith and to follow the freighters orders, and that hee soe freighted her for account of himselfe and other Portuguese living in this citie, and that they laded her outwards with serges, cloth and other goods, and that at the Canaries there were laden for their account 149 pipes of wines as by the papers transmitted them XXXather hath bin manifested XXXXX, And saith that the said shipp comming from thense with the said wines for the downes, was about fourteene dayes since cast away by storme and fault or error of the mariners at BXXXX in the Ile of Wight as this deponent hath by lettres bin informed..."

Portuguese correspondents of London merchants


- HCA 13/71 f.412r Case: On the behalfe of Antonio Rodrigo Robles and others touching the casting away of the Blackboy; Deposition: 3. Antonio Roderigo Robles of London Merchant, aged 37 yeeres; Date: 17/11/1656[1]


Young Portuguese merchant in London


Augustine Coronell (incorrectly written as Colonell by the Admiralty clerk) was a thirty year old Portuguese merchant, living in London

  • "To the 2 hee saith he is a Portugese by byrth and is noe assurer of any

part of the goods in question nor any way concerned in them
And otherwise negatively./

To the 3 hee saith hee never lived in holland or fflanders save
only as a soionener for a moneth or some such smale tyme
at seuerall places as Amsterdam Rotterdam and other places
in Zealand and at Antwerpe and Bruxells and other places in
fflanders,..."

- HCA 13/71 f.537v Case: Goodwin and Company against the Saint John; Deposition: 4. Augustine Colonell of London Merchant aged thirty yeares; Date: 04/02/1656 ("same day"). Transcribed by Jill Wilcox[2]

Coronell arranged false bills of lading for goods shipped from Lisbon to France, to avoid their seizure by the Spanish

  • "18. To the 7th article hee saith hee well knoweth that within the yeares

and moneths arlate and since the Pease betweene the King of Spaine
and the Lords of the United Provinces hee this deponent being by
birth a Portuguese but for these three yeares an Inhabitant of the
Cittie of London as a Merchant Stranger and in both respects an
Enymie to the King of Spaine hath in the sayd tyme receaved seuerall
Merchandizes from Lisbone here in London and had for his owne
Accompte and ˹hath had˺ severall goods sent for this deponents Accompt from
Lisbone to ffrance, but for the better preserveing them from being
seized if mett with by any men of warr subiects of the King of Spaine
hee this deponent hath caused his Correspondents at Lisbone
to take bills of ladeing for the sayd goods as laden for Accompt of
subiects of the States of the United Provinces and as bound for
the United Provinces when in reality the same were bound for ffrance
or England countryes in hostility with the King of Spaine, and
for Accompt of this deponent a subiect of Portuguese and an
Inhabitant of England And saith it is a usuall practize among
Merchants of such Countries as are in hostility with the Spaniard
or have goods sent from any Country in hostility with the
Spaniard, or to any Country in hostility with him to make
the like colourable bills as if the same were for Accompt of the
subiects of Princes or States in Amity with the King of Spaine
and bound to Countries in Amity with him..."

- HCA 13/71 f.537r Case: Goodwin and Company against the Saint John; Deposition: 4. Augustine Colonell of London Merchant aged thirty yeares; Date: 04/02/1656 ("same day"). Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet[3]
  1. ↑ HCA 13/71 f.412r
  2. ↑ HCA 13/71 f.537v
  3. ↑ HCA 13/71 f.537r

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