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and otherwise hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.
 
and otherwise hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.
  
To the 5 and 6th hee rcannot depose saving as aforesaid.
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To the 7th hee cannot depose.
 
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'''Robert VCurtis''' of Rochester ffisher man, aged 65 yeares
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or thereabouts sworne and examined.
 
or thereabouts sworne and examined.
  
 
To the said allegation made on the behalfe of the said producents
 
To the said allegation made on the behalfe of the said producents
 
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STAC 2/17/40 Description: PLAINTIFF: Edmund Rule DEFENDANT: Thomas Norwood, William Gylinyn, and others PLACE OR SUBJECT: Fishing and dragging of oysters in the fairway of the Thames COUNTY: Kent; Dates: 22/04/1509-28/01/1547
 
STAC 2/17/40 Description: PLAINTIFF: Edmund Rule DEFENDANT: Thomas Norwood, William Gylinyn, and others PLACE OR SUBJECT: Fishing and dragging of oysters in the fairway of the Thames COUNTY: Kent; Dates: 22/04/1509-28/01/1547
 
 
|Secondary sources=Patricia Hyde & Duncan Farrington, Faversham Hundred Records - Volume 1
 
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- Being an index and catalogue of 5257 original documents deposited at the Public Record Office, Centre for Kentish Studies, Canterbury Cathedral Archives and Lambeth Palace Library.
 
- Being an index and catalogue of 5257 original documents deposited at the Public Record Office, Centre for Kentish Studies, Canterbury Cathedral Archives and Lambeth Palace Library.
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[http://www.kafs.co.uk/pdf/port.pdf The Historical Development of the Port of Faversham, Kent 1580-1780]
 
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The same day. [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined upon the said allegation.

3.

William King of Strowde in the County of kent ffisherman
aged 54 yeares or thereabouts worne and examined.

To the said allegation hee saith and deposeth that hee well knoweth
East Swale and hartie shore allegate and soe hath donne for theise
fourtie five yeares last or thereabouts, during all or the most part
of which time hee hath used to fish thereon for spratts, hee for
all this time living in Strowde aforesaid. And saith that for all the
said time, and as hee hath heard for time beyond the memory of man
the fishermen of Milton, Strowde, halstow, Gillingha, and
places adiacent have used to fish there for spratts and other fish
And saith the same place is within the ebbing and flowing of the sea and an arme and part of the sea, and
nabigable, soe that a shipp of three hundred tunnes may passe
in and out upon the water thereof, and for such the same was and
is commonly accompted. And otherwise hee cannot depose.

To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first hee saith hee is one of the ffishermen of Strowd in his
owne right, and claimes thereby right of fishing and dredging in
the grounds in question.

To the second hee saith hee is one of the parties interessed in this
sute being a fisherman of Strowde as aforesaid, and therefore desires
that right may take place, but hee hath not contributed ought
to the charges of this sute, nor doth not knowe that hee is to contribute
ought.

To the third and fourth hee saith the fisher men of feversham
challenge a right of dredging for Oisters on the grounds in question
exclusive to all others, and saith they have used to fish thereon,
and otherwise hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.

To the 5 and 6th hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.

To the 7th hee cannot depose.

Top the 8th hee saith the fishermen of ffeversham doe often
watch the grounds in question

To the 9th negatively.

To the 10th hee saith the interrogated Rippinghall and [?Bertensells] are
dwellers in Stroud, and otherwise hee cannot depose.

To the 11th hee hath not soe deposed.

WW [MARKE, RH SIDE]

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The twelveth of October 1655. [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined upon the foresaid allegation.

4

Robert Curtis of Rochester ffisher man, aged 65 yeares
or thereabouts sworne and examined.

To the said allegation made on the behalfe of the said producents
hee

Sources

Primary sources


Canterbury Cathedral Archives

DCb/PRC/18/28/123 Archdeaconry Court Miscellaneous Document: PLAINTIFF: Mich LIEVESEY Bart; PR Eastchurch; DEFENDANT: Thos DAMON Oare; DOCUMENT: Lib; CASE: T; Oyster farming in Crockdeepe Creek, Sheppey; Date: 19 Nov 1640

Essex Record Office

D/DGe P4/1 - D/DGe P4/3 Description: Map of shores probably prepared in connection with oyster layings belonging to the manor, with two copies Date: 1675

Kent History and Archive Centre

QB/AF/1, Bonds to prevent illegal fishing and dredging, 1628 - 1789 (54 docs)

QB/FVc Chamberlains' vouchers for all matters including oyster fishery DEscription: These accounts include some early mayoral bills, oyster books and bonds for raising loans. After 1750 there is an almost complete series of original annual bundles from Michaelmas to Michaelmas, 1571-1861

QB/L/7 Drafts, copies etc. of documents relating to oyster fishery, copperas works and other properties in Queenborough. Description: Including copy Award of Francis Offley Martin for oyster fishery and creditors 1602-1628, 1706-23, c.1850-1877; Dates: 1602-1877

U386/T66 Manor of Barsksore Description:Land and oyster fisheries Dates: 1605-1795 Language: English

Parliamentary Archive

HL/PO/JO/10/1/122 16 May 1642 -- Petition of George Asser, Richard French, and William Thompson, of the county of Essex, fishermen. Time out of mind fishermen have had free liberty to take oysters in an arm of the sea called Burnham Water, but the Earl of Sussex has lately claimed the sole right of fishing there.

HL/PO/JO/10/1/186 24 October 1644 -- Petition of the several fishermen inhabitants within the county of Essex. Petitioners have, time out of mind, fished and dredged for oysters in an arm of the sea within the vice-admiralty of Essex, called Burnham Water, alias Walfleet, Eleanor Dowager Countess of Sussex pretends a right to the fishing and dredging within the whole water of Burnham, and has obtained an order prohibiting petitioners and others from fishing there, to the utter undoing of many hundreds of poor people.

TNA

BT 297/250 , River Swale, Manors of Faversham and Graveney: Earl Sondes and Faversham Oyster Fishery Company, 1911

C 5/451/65 Short title: Bassett v Stevens. Plaintiffs: William Bassett, clerk. Defendants: William Stevens. Subject: oyster laying in Little Wakering, Essex. Document type: Bill only. 1679

PROB 11/268/521 Will of Peter Lawrence, Oyster Dredger of Barling, Essex 19 November 1657

SP 46/95/fo215-216 William [?Hemory] to [?Sir Michael Livesey] about oyster-fishing, particularly in Kent. 1649 Dec. 15

STAC 2/17/40 Description: PLAINTIFF: Edmund Rule DEFENDANT: Thomas Norwood, William Gylinyn, and others PLACE OR SUBJECT: Fishing and dragging of oysters in the fairway of the Thames COUNTY: Kent; Dates: 22/04/1509-28/01/1547

Secondary sources


Patricia Hyde & Duncan Farrington, Faversham Hundred Records - Volume 1
- Being an index and catalogue of 5257 original documents deposited at the Public Record Office, Centre for Kentish Studies, Canterbury Cathedral Archives and Lambeth Palace Library.
- "The index provides for the very first time the most comprehensive index to the documents of the twenty parishes that comprise the Hundred deposited at the Centre for Kentish Studies. This involved the monumental labour of turning every single page of their unofficial catalogues. The whole index has been arranged under place and date in six columns giving the Archive, the archive reference, the main parish, a description of the document, the number of documents and the dates. The index will be an indispensable tool for local and family historians as it includes many deeds, family and estate papers and even a few wills"

Patricia Hyde & Duncan Farrington, Faversham Hundred Records, Vol 2, Hearth Tax Returns for Faversham Hundred 1662-1671 with Supporting Documents (XXXX, 1998)

Patricia Hyde & Duncan Farrington, Faversham Tudor & Stuart Muster Rolls, Faversham Hundred Records Volume 3 (XXXX, 2000).

Patricia Hyde and Duncan Harrington, XX, Faversham Hundred Records - Volume 4 (ISBN 978-0-9530998-2-5)
- The coloured dust jacket is based on a surviving 1608 map of the oyster fishery
- "The first controlled fishery is heard of in the area of Seasalter, in a charter granted by Offa, king of Mercia, in 785 where a fish weir is mentioned. At the Conquest Faversham, Whitstable and Milton were all fisheries that were then royal manors, perhaps controlled by the crown, perhaps not. Our researches have shown that there is no doubt that King Stephen, in founding the abbey at Faversham in 1147 by granting them the manor and hundred of Faversham, founded the oyster fishery company. It may have been based on arrangements made when Faversham had been a royal manor, but we have no proof one way or the other.
Like so many businesses the records of The Company and Fraternity of Freefishermen and Dredgermen of Faversham and the eventual formation of the Faversham Oyster Fishery Company Ltd. in 1930 have left no complete archive. Despite this, through diligent research in many archives, we have been able to build up a comprehensive account. Twenty-five appendices, arranged in chronological order, provide transcripts of some of the more important documents and include lists of members taken from a variety of records. Comprehensive name and place indexes enable individuals to be easily located in these records"[1]


The Historical Development of the Port of Faversham, Kent 1580-1780
  1. Patricia Hyde and Duncan Harrington, XX, Faversham Hundred Records - Volume 4