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==Tasks for the week== | ==Tasks for the week== | ||
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| + | ===Week commencing 20th August 2012=== | ||
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| + | ===Week commencing 30th August 2012=== | ||
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| + | ===Week commencing 3rd September 2012=== | ||
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| + | ===Week commencing 24th September 2012=== | ||
| + | ====Interesting places==== | ||
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| + | =====Aleppo===== | ||
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| + | See [http://www.bron.wikispot.org/Aleppo Aleppo] | ||
| + | See also [http://www.bron.wikispot.org/Constantinople Constantinople] and [http://www.bron.wikispot.org/Smyrna Smyrna] | ||
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| + | =====Scanderoone===== | ||
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| + | * Scanderoone was the port of Aleppo | ||
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| + | See Scanderoone search on http://bron.wikispot.org | ||
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| + | [http://www.bron.wikispot.org/Leonard_Bushell_will Leonard Bushell will] | ||
| + | ... will whilst sick and weak in Scanderoone Road in the eastern Mediterra ... shell's will to any locations other than Scanderoone and Lymehouse. There is no m ... the time of Leonard writing his will at Scanderoone, in 1661. Leonard Bushell es ... ll the primadge to bee Received here att Scanderoone & ffiftie dollers To bee Rece ... xtie and One, Aboard the ''Societie'' in Scanderoone Road: LEO: BUSHELL Signed S ... | ||
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| + | [http://www.bron.wikispot.org/HCA_13/73_Part_One#head-c042a0ad24ae069617a74429841cb860c6a13663 HCA 13/73 Part One: Case: Christopher Maly?m, Thomas Carret, Beth?el Tynck, George Southerne, George Rogers, Thomas West, ffrancis Rosse, and John Robeck, late Mariners of the Ship the Anne: Examination: 1. John Atkins, Ratcliffe, Mariner, aged 32: Date: February 26th 1658] | ||
| + | ... Salt, and caried y:e same to Scanderoone, and there delivered y:e same ... e last of y:e said Salt was delivered at Scanderoone on or about the fourth day of ... untill her Delivery of her last goods at Scanderoone:/ all the Mariners XXX did se ... ime of the Delivery of her last goods at Scanderoone was the space of seaven monet ... r Lading of salt, and Caried y:e same to Scanderoone, and there Delivered the same ... y:e foresaid salt brought from Xyprus to Scanderoone was unladen as aforesaid at S ... Scanderoone was unladen as aforesaid at Scanderoone there were there laden aboard ... of her discharging of her last goods at Scanderoone ?was about seaven monethes an ... im ?twenty Eight ryalls of Eight, and at Scanderoone hee received of y:e sd Malim ... hip came to Cyprus, (after she came from Scanderoone;) where (by order of the Wor: ... ts wherein the bills of Ladeig firmed at ... | ||
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| + | ====Interesting people==== | ||
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| + | ====Interesting commodities==== | ||
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| + | ==Tips from team members== | ||
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| + | Will Kellett - 27/8/2012 - After having a look at some sample documents, I thought it would be worth noting some common problems with certain letters (mainly due to their confusion with modern equivalents) - notably 'R' which, when not in capital form, almost always looks like a modern 'w' as well as 's' (which occurs most regularly with 'saith') which often looks like a modern ' f '. | ||
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| + | '''Tips for documents in Team William Week One''' (William Tullett, 8th September 2012) | ||
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| + | These are some tips to help you with practicing on the documents in 'Team William Week One' which contain the HCA 13/71 f.51r P1130303 all the way up to HCA 13/71 f.59v P1130320. | ||
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| + | If you look through these documents you will see that we are essentially dealing with two different hands being used in different folios. | ||
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| + | The first two documents on the list represent the more difficult, very cursive, 'spidery' hand. | ||
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| + | If you go to the last document you will see a smaller and much more manageable hand. | ||
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| + | I will put some tips here for the first of the hands we can see in these documents as it is the more difficult, but if anybody would like some tips regarding the other hand then do not hesitate to ask me. If you double click on this text you should be able to edit it and put questions if you have any! | ||
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| + | Firstly this clerk's 'h's are very, very loose. | ||
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| + | Here is an example of 'Hee': | ||
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| + | [[File:williamweekonehee.png|thumbnail|Hee]] | ||
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| + | In addition the 's's are very loose and not fully formed. We can also see in this word, 'saith' how his 'a's are sometimes also not quite fully joined up, which can make them difficult to distinguish from other vowels. So bear this in mind: | ||
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| + | [[File:williamweekonesaith.png|thumbnail|saith]] | ||
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| + | The clerk in this case also seems to use the sign for 'th' for 'ch' as well. See here for 'w(hi)ch': | ||
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| + | [[File:williamweekonewhich.png|thumbnail|w(hi)ch]] | ||
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| + | Another point to make about this clerk's hand is letters like 'c' and 'o' are also frequently left half formed as we can see in 'second'. | ||
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| + | [[File:williamweekonesecond.png|thumbnail|second]] | ||
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| + | '''Rudimentary lower case alphabet for week one''' | ||
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| + | Below is a lower case alphabet made from print screening individual letters from one of the harder extracts. Not ALL the letters will look exactly like this and some may look closer to or further from modern day equivalents. It is not definitive but it should help you in thinking about individual letters you are stuck on. | ||
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| + | [[File:williamweekonealphabet.png]] | ||
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==Queries from team members== | ==Queries from team members== | ||
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==Message from Colin to William== | ==Message from Colin to William== | ||
| − | * '''Sat., 25/08/12:''' I have posted ten images from HCA 13/71 to http://www.Marinelives-transcript.org which you may wish to use for your own practice | + | * '''Sat., 25/08/12:''' I have posted ten images from HCA 13/71 to http://www.Marinelives-transcript.org which you may wish to use for your own practice and with your team during the training week (w/c 3rd Sept.) |
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| − | * HCA 13/71 f.53v First cut transcription completed, requires assistance with some spellings. Note a number of interlineal insertions on this manuscript page | + | * Of the above posted images: |
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| + | - HCA 13/71 f.53r First cut transcription completed; requires assistance on some spellings and on missing words | ||
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| + | - HCA 13/71 f.53v First cut transcription completed, requires assistance with some spellings. Note a number of interlineal insertions on this manuscript page | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:04, September 25, 2012
Team William
Editorial history
23/08/12: CSG, created page
Contents
Suggested links
Team Colin
Team Giovanni/Patrizia
Team Jill
MarineLives-Transcript: Team William
Tasks for the week
Week commencing 20th August 2012
Week commencing 30th August 2012
Week commencing 3rd September 2012
Week commencing 24th September 2012
Interesting places
Aleppo
See Aleppo
See also Constantinople and Smyrna
Scanderoone
- Scanderoone was the port of Aleppo
See Scanderoone search on http://bron.wikispot.org
Leonard Bushell will
... will whilst sick and weak in Scanderoone Road in the eastern Mediterra ... shell's will to any locations other than Scanderoone and Lymehouse. There is no m ... the time of Leonard writing his will at Scanderoone, in 1661. Leonard Bushell es ... ll the primadge to bee Received here att Scanderoone & ffiftie dollers To bee Rece ... xtie and One, Aboard the Societie in Scanderoone Road: LEO: BUSHELL Signed S ...
HCA 13/73 Part One: Case: Christopher Maly?m, Thomas Carret, Beth?el Tynck, George Southerne, George Rogers, Thomas West, ffrancis Rosse, and John Robeck, late Mariners of the Ship the Anne: Examination: 1. John Atkins, Ratcliffe, Mariner, aged 32: Date: February 26th 1658
... Salt, and caried y:e same to Scanderoone, and there delivered y:e same ... e last of y:e said Salt was delivered at Scanderoone on or about the fourth day of ... untill her Delivery of her last goods at Scanderoone:/ all the Mariners XXX did se ... ime of the Delivery of her last goods at Scanderoone was the space of seaven monet ... r Lading of salt, and Caried y:e same to Scanderoone, and there Delivered the same ... y:e foresaid salt brought from Xyprus to Scanderoone was unladen as aforesaid at S ... Scanderoone was unladen as aforesaid at Scanderoone there were there laden aboard ... of her discharging of her last goods at Scanderoone ?was about seaven monethes an ... im ?twenty Eight ryalls of Eight, and at Scanderoone hee received of y:e sd Malim ... hip came to Cyprus, (after she came from Scanderoone;) where (by order of the Wor: ... ts wherein the bills of Ladeig firmed at ...
Interesting people
Interesting commodities
Tips from team members
Will Kellett - 27/8/2012 - After having a look at some sample documents, I thought it would be worth noting some common problems with certain letters (mainly due to their confusion with modern equivalents) - notably 'R' which, when not in capital form, almost always looks like a modern 'w' as well as 's' (which occurs most regularly with 'saith') which often looks like a modern ' f '.
Tips for documents in Team William Week One (William Tullett, 8th September 2012)
These are some tips to help you with practicing on the documents in 'Team William Week One' which contain the HCA 13/71 f.51r P1130303 all the way up to HCA 13/71 f.59v P1130320.
If you look through these documents you will see that we are essentially dealing with two different hands being used in different folios.
The first two documents on the list represent the more difficult, very cursive, 'spidery' hand.
If you go to the last document you will see a smaller and much more manageable hand.
I will put some tips here for the first of the hands we can see in these documents as it is the more difficult, but if anybody would like some tips regarding the other hand then do not hesitate to ask me. If you double click on this text you should be able to edit it and put questions if you have any!
Firstly this clerk's 'h's are very, very loose.
Here is an example of 'Hee':
In addition the 's's are very loose and not fully formed. We can also see in this word, 'saith' how his 'a's are sometimes also not quite fully joined up, which can make them difficult to distinguish from other vowels. So bear this in mind:
The clerk in this case also seems to use the sign for 'th' for 'ch' as well. See here for 'w(hi)ch':
Another point to make about this clerk's hand is letters like 'c' and 'o' are also frequently left half formed as we can see in 'second'.
Rudimentary lower case alphabet for week one
Below is a lower case alphabet made from print screening individual letters from one of the harder extracts. Not ALL the letters will look exactly like this and some may look closer to or further from modern day equivalents. It is not definitive but it should help you in thinking about individual letters you are stuck on.
Queries from team members
Message from Colin to William
- Sat., 25/08/12: I have posted ten images from HCA 13/71 to http://www.Marinelives-transcript.org which you may wish to use for your own practice and with your team during the training week (w/c 3rd Sept.)
- HCA 13/71 f.51r to HCA 13/71 f.55v (P1130303 to P1130312)
- Of the above posted images:
- HCA 13/71 f.53r First cut transcription completed; requires assistance on some spellings and on missing words
- HCA 13/71 f.53v First cut transcription completed, requires assistance with some spellings. Note a number of interlineal insertions on this manuscript page
