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| + | ==Signoff image== | ||
[[File:KaggleTestSnippet HCA 1368 f.25r.PNG|600px|thumb|left|KaggleTestSnippets: HCA 13/68 f.25r]] | [[File:KaggleTestSnippet HCA 1368 f.25r.PNG|600px|thumb|left|KaggleTestSnippets: HCA 13/68 f.25r]] | ||
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| + | ==Palaeographical comments== | ||
| + | Does the forward sloping 30 degree angle of the initial "P" suggest the deponent copied the "P" of "Painter", which was probably previously written by the notary who drew up the deposition from oral testimony? | ||
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| + | Is the bottom right hand "foot" of the initial "P" an attempt by the deponent to copy the downward curve of the "P" of Painter written by the notary, which cuts through the vertical line of the "P"? | ||
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| + | [https://twitter.com/samklai Dr Samuli Kaslaniemi] "I would put my money on signatories drawing their markes first, and the scribe/notary only then writing in their names. Cf this image, where surely the markes would be more evenly spaced on the page...I mean the markes would be better spaced on the page if their locations were assigned by the scribe/notary before they were drawn. But I'm sure there are exceptions – they can always be found! – and this might even be linked to text type." | ||
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| + | Hailwood: I think this is an attempt at a 'P'. It is quite common in the sources I have looked at for the initial of the surname to be used as a mark. I think Sam could be right, which would cast the copying thesis into doubt, but I would still read this as a P. | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:03, June 16, 2018
| KaggleTestSnippets: HCA 13/68 f.25r | |
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| First name | John |
| Middle name(s) | |
| Last name | Painter |
| Suffix | |
| Occupation | Mariner |
| Secondary shorebased occupation | |
| Mariner occupation | One of the Company |
| Citizen | Unknown |
| Res street | |
| Res parish | |
| Res town | Wincanton |
| Res county | Somerset |
| Res province | |
| Res country | England |
| Age at deposition | 18 |
| Birth year | 1635 |
| Deposition date | Oct 26 1653 |
| Deposition start page | HCA 13/68 f.24v Annotate |
| Deposition signoff page | HCA 13/68 f.25r Annotate |
| Grading | |
| Type of signoff | Initial |
| Type of marke | |
| Number of initials | 1 |
| Signoff rotation | |
| Grade of signoff Greenstreet | Simple |
| Grade of signoff Hailwood | Simple |
| Grade of signoff Ponte | |
| Grade of signoff Van Lottum | |
| Numerical grade of signoff Greenstreet | |
| Numerical grade of signoff Hailwood | |
| Numerical grade of signoff Ponte | |
| Numerical grade of signoff Van Lottum | |
